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Linux Sucks (Video)

Roblimo posted about 4 months ago | from the to-learn-how-badly-linux-sucks,-you-need-to-use-it-for-at-least-five-years dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 293

How do we know Linux sucks? Because Bryan Lunduke says so. How did he become a Linux authority? By using Linux, of course. He has also written a kids Linux book, Linux for Hank, and a grown-up Linux book, Linux is Badass. But wait! That's not all! Bryan is also one of the people behind the infamous Bad Voltage podcast.

And now, for something slightly different: In moments of weakness, Bryan admits that maybe Linux suckage isn't total, and Linux may have a good point or two and maybe some of the suckage could be removed. Zounds! Is that possible? Watch our video chat with Bryan (and/or read the transcript) and see. Or watch the entire 44 minute speech he gave at the 2014 LinuxFest Northwest, which was the 5th (or maybe 6th) "Linux Sucks" speech he's given at LFNW. That makes this a tradition, not just a speech. So if you find yourself in or near Bellingham, Washington, in 2039 you might want to pop in and see if Bryan is still updating his "Linux Sucks" speech. He'll be the geezer hobbling to the front of the room with help from his AutoCane, a device sure to be developed between now and then -- which will no doubt run Linux. (Alternate video link)

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Zounds?! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041195)

Whoever wrote this summary should be kicked in the balls, hard, at least three times.

Re:Zounds?! (1)

stevez67 (2374822) | about 4 months ago | (#47041239)

And, Linux has no sense of humor.

Re:Zounds?! (4, Funny)

i kan reed (749298) | about 4 months ago | (#47041255)

Yeah, I know how you feel. I'm constantly wanting more tolerance of bad jokes from my inanimate objects.

Re:Zounds?! (1)

ClownPenis (1315157) | about 4 months ago | (#47041409)

your object isn't even a pointer to an array

Re:Zounds?! (1)

Jody Bruchon (3404363) | about 4 months ago | (#47041523)

Segmentation fault

Re:Zounds?! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041303)

And, it should be legal to take a 12gauge shotgun to the kneecaps of people who drive like inconsiderate asshats. The result? Lots of decimated kneecaps? No. Better drivers. It would provide the selfish reason the average fat american douchebag needs to do it right. A few examples here and there and the rest fall in line, just like any other herd animal. Their screams of pain would be the music of fighting stupidity.

By the way America is not "more individualistic" than say Japan. Americans are more (MUCH more) self-centered. That's not the same thing. Being able to understand how your actions will affect other people around you is an act of personal responsibility and only a real individual is capable of it.

Re:Zounds?! (1)

ClownPenis (1315157) | about 4 months ago | (#47041435)

case of the Mondays?

Re:Zounds?! (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041709)

In the US, people are raised to consider not caring what other people think to be a virtue. They also consider stupidity a virtue. This is a core reason this country sucks so bad socially. I'm a natural born US citizen. Not eurotrash. And as an IT professional, many people consider being ignorant of technology, in 2014, when the computer is their primary tool to do their job, to be a humorous "ahh shucks" virtue.

Them: I need help with my Outlook.
Me: And that's how you expand your subfolders. Your email wasn't "gone".
Them: Oh that was so simple! I'm just really stupid when it comes to computers. Ahh shucks.

They waste company time and resources, and I don't know why these idiots are allowed to work there. 10 years ago, I could partially understand it. It's 2014. You should be ashamed if your profession uses email and you can't use Outlook.

Re:Zounds?! (1, Insightful)

517714 (762276) | about 4 months ago | (#47042025)

You saddle your coworkers with Microsoft products and complain about their stupidity? How much time and resources has your decision cost the company?

Re:Zounds?! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041341)

Whoever wrote this summary should be kicked in the balls, hard, at least three times.

Whoever still uses the word "balls" should be punched in the face, hard, at least three times.

I prefer the term "nuts", you insensitive prick.

Re:Zounds?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041789)

Whoever wrote this summary should be kicked in the balls, hard, at least three times.

Whoever still uses the word "balls" should be punched in the face, hard, at least three times.

I prefer the term "nuts", you insensitive prick.

I'm allergic to nuts you insensitive clod!

Duh! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041211)

Every distro except the one I use does suck.
And every other window manager, and every other package manager, and every other...

Re:Duh! (5, Insightful)

thevirtualcat (1071504) | about 4 months ago | (#47041235)

Lucky you.

They all suck, including the one I use!

Re:Duh! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041501)

Lucky you.

They all suck, including the one I use!

I note you failed to name a single specific falsifiable instance of the alleged suckage. Therefore I conclude the following:

Your incompetence and inability to RTFM is definitely the fault of the window manager. Absolutely. Let's never question that premise!

Re:Duh! (5, Funny)

thevirtualcat (1071504) | about 4 months ago | (#47041627)

I tried to RTFM, but TFM just says I need to RTFM. :(

Re:Duh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041453)

Every distro except the one I use does suck.
And every other window manager, and every other package manager, and every other...

That's got to be wrong !
It's a well known fact that My Opinion > Your Opinion.

Always videos :( (5, Insightful)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | about 4 months ago | (#47041251)

I don't like this growing trend where people insist on creating everything as video, even things where the video doesn't actually serve any purpose other than showing a talking head. Information is so much easier to consume when you can consume it at your own pace, depending on your own speed of reading with no distracting heads and not being limited by the speed at which the video happens to progress. Text also happens to let you quickly jump over things you already are familiar with or jump back and forth between interesting passages.

I want less videos. I want more text.

Re:Always videos :( (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041287)

Protip: press the subtitles button.

Re:Always videos :( (5, Insightful)

meerling (1487879) | about 4 months ago | (#47041421)

Contip: That still doesn't return the wasted bandwidth, nor does it give you the random access ability of a page of text. Additionally, if the subtitles are not hardcoded, jumping the video or increasing the playback speed will usually make the subtitles go away. For that matter, depending on what playback device you use, your options for increasing or reducing playback speeds tend to be very limited, especially at the higher speeds where they tend to skip over entire segments resulting in lost text. And that's not even mentioning that you need a good subtitler to keep the timing reasonable and readable, something that is rather lacking in a large number of those that do subtitles. Maybe you mean for them to hire a professional subtitler, though that would massively increase the cost. (Yes, I watch a lot of subtitled videos.)

Sorry AC, but your 'protip' doesn't work worth a damn.

Some things are better for video, some for text, and some for audio. Too bad there's a lot of idiots that think everything should be video. I'm dreading the day I find a video of some baka reading a book, magazine, or newspaper. I'm sure they exist, but fortunately I haven't been forced to view them yet.

Re:Always videos :( (2)

exomondo (1725132) | about 4 months ago | (#47041903)

Come on, surely on "News for Nerds" it's not going to be that hard to reach the conclusion that the subtitles are there so there's probably some way to extract them and lo, somebody (well actually there are various ones) has already created a tool to do just that [blogspot.com.au] .

Re:Always videos :( (2)

Farmer Tim (530755) | about 4 months ago | (#47041449)

Then you get to read it at the speaker’s pace anyway, or try skipping with hopelessly inaccurate scrubbing controls. This completely fails to solve any of the problems mentioned.

Re:Always videos :( (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041599)

Then you get to read it at the speaker’s pace anyway, or try skipping with hopelessly inaccurate scrubbing controls. This completely fails to solve any of the problems mentioned.

The complete and utter failure to address the problem never seems to stop such fucktards from proposing flawed solutions.

Re:Always videos :( (1)

Richy_T (111409) | about 4 months ago | (#47041459)

I think he's more calling for a "Transcript" button.

Re:Always videos :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041585)

There appears to be a functioning transcript button just below the video.

Re:Always videos :( (1)

Richy_T (111409) | about 4 months ago | (#47041621)

Result.

Re:Always videos :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041809)

LOL. Not in Beta there isn't.

Re:Always videos :( (1)

Fwipp (1473271) | about 4 months ago | (#47041919)

(she)

Re:Always videos :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041683)

Protip: press the subtitles button.

That's no pro tip. It still takes too sucking long (tl;dw). Even a transcript of the video sucks. One bullet point for each reason Linux sucks, and one corresponding short sucking paragraph with details, and anyone could evaluate their merit in a tenth of the time it would take to watch the sucking video.

People who only post video are the laziest bunch of sucking sucks who ever sucked a sucking suck!

Re:Always videos :( (3, Informative)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 4 months ago | (#47041935)

Doesn't help, as you can't speed up the video to let you read the text more quickly. Print it all out and let us read that, then we'll be done with that half hour video in less than 5 minutes, saving 99.9999% of the bandwidth (assuming ads are turned off).

The main reasons people do video is to get a few cents out of youtube or to feed their ego. The only time video helps is if there is some sort of demonstration.

Re:Always videos :( (0)

ogar572 (531320) | about 4 months ago | (#47041289)

You ain't cool unless you do video

Re:Always videos :( (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041367)

You ain't cool unless you do video

Linux?

Cool?

Call me when Facebook offers you seven figures.

Otherwise, shut the hell up and get back in your Moms basement, nerd.

Re:Always videos :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041519)

Ha ha! Calling someone a nerd on slashdot... Too funny.

Re:Always videos :( (1, Funny)

Rinikusu (28164) | about 4 months ago | (#47041329)

Yeah, I read Playboy for the articles, too.

Re:Always videos :( (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 4 months ago | (#47041933)

They actually have a Braille version of Playboy with only articles (before anyone asks, I checked and there were no special embossed pages for additional interaction).

Re:Always videos :( (1)

bargainsale (1038112) | about 4 months ago | (#47041355)

Too right. Have a virtual modpoint. (I see you've rightly acquired lots of real ones, so I don't feel too bad.)

Re:Always videos :( (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041359)

I too hate when the harsh light caused by a video playing illuminates my tech dungeon, bro. I can deal with the minimal lumens from a few terminals but it's complete bullshit when someone forces me to examine the filth I wallow in while using my device.

Amen (5, Insightful)

future assassin (639396) | about 4 months ago | (#47041385)

I have no idea who inisited on it and when it became cool to have to watch a slow ass instructional video when a small write up and 10 photos will do the job 10x faster and I can scroll up and down the page or print it when I need a reference. Its so painfull just see how many vdeo tutorials where are for say Drupal.

Re:Amen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041655)

I have no idea who inisited on it and when it became cool to have to watch a slow ass instructional video when a small write up and 10 photos will do the job 10x faster and I can scroll up and down the page or print it when I need a reference. Its so painfull just see how many vdeo tutorials where are for say Drupal.

riting wurdz is hard and autocorrect misses them up to much.

Re:Amen (2)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 4 months ago | (#47041707)

Oh, I don't know, once in a while I come across a tutorial that really does benefit from video. Unfortunately about half of those are ruined because the creator didn't think about what he was trying to do first, and just dove straight in. These are easily spotted by constant repetitions of the phrase "I'm just gonna go right ahead and..." followed swiftly by "Okay, that didn't work, let me just..."

Re:Amen (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 4 months ago | (#47041967)

The ones I really hate are where you do a google search (not youtube) about how to fix a bug in a game or such, and the top hit is a looong video of a mouse interacting with windows UI where most of that time the mouse isn't moving because the video maker is talking. Even if you do that sort of thing in a video (for people who can't find menus) it would still be more informative if it just showed the screenshots with arrows pointing to what to click on and get the whole video finished in a minute. But the guys do videos because they want to get hits on the videos and thus hopefully some money from youtube.

Re:Always videos :( (1)

Dan East (318230) | about 4 months ago | (#47041397)

Can you please video yourself reading your comment, upload to Youtube and post a reply with the URL? I read your text too fast and was jumping around in it a bit, and I really would like to adhere more to your original though process as intended. Thanks!

Re:Always videos :( (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 4 months ago | (#47041971)

It's mostly a lot of "umm, like, you know that time, when umm, oh wait uh how do I uh edit this?"

Re:Always videos :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041399)

And THAT fold is why Linux Sucks.

"This is the way I like to do things, therefore everyone else will like it too."

I am and Audio Visual learner, I learn more easily that way, so videos work well for me, however I DONT presume everyone is the same as me.

Re:Always videos :( (2)

jedidiah (1196) | about 4 months ago | (#47041821)

I am an AV learner too. However I am also impatient. If something can be summed up in a small paragraph then I find video to be an intolerable waste of time. Video is for intractable subjects, not random musings.

Re:Always videos :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041489)

But if it was presented in text, the lips of all the mouth-breathers in the crowd would get tired! Can't you think of the less-gifted for a change?

Idiots are people too, remember.

Re:Always videos :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041509)

This.
This so much.

Please mod parent up to 6.

Re:Always videos :( (1)

MikeBabcock (65886) | about 4 months ago | (#47041651)

Every time I rant about this somewhere (except maybe here https://plus.google.com/+Micha... [google.com] ) people complain that I'm being "elitist" for wanting to read things that are basically text instead of listening to someone else do it.

Re:Always videos :( (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 4 months ago | (#47041749)

However here, at least, Slashdot is a little more progressive than some sites in providing a transcript.

It could also be argued that this video (in common with most that do actually make it to Slashdot, to the best of my recollection), being as it is an unrehearsed interview and not a pre-written statement, does add just a little more in terms of context, phrasing, and emphasis than can be gained from reading the transcript alone.

I don't see any helpful "sarcasm" tags in the transcript, for example. Those come in handy sometimes.

Re:Always videos :( (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041891)

When you consider that in the U.S. people are graduating high school without being able to read, what choice is left to impart information?

Re:Always videos :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041999)

Give that man a cracker! I don't click video links, it's usually 30 seconds of information in a 10 minute video.

Re:Always videos :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47042021)

Don't you mean "I want fewer videos?" Since you are so interested in text, it seems rational to assume you would know how to do it right.

So where is the transcript? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041257)

I see several links to the video...

But nothing for the transcript. Which makes it hard to read....

Re:So where is the transcript? (5, Informative)

Rashdot (845549) | about 4 months ago | (#47041645)

Click on "Hide/Show Transcript" under the video...

So where is the transcript? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041677)

The summary says that there are multiple links to the same video, but the summary is wrong. There are links to different videos.

There is no transcript for any of them.

Re:So where is the transcript? (2)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 4 months ago | (#47041697)

What that be the "Hide/Show Transcript" link directly below the video?

Who is Bryan Lunduke? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041269)

And why should I give a shit what his opinion is?

Re:Who is Bryan Lunduke? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041495)

You don't have to, if you don't want to.

Linux = cheap UNIX knock off. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041277)

No forking in OS X land.

Re:Linux = cheap UNIX knock off. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041317)

Who wants a Prius when you can drive a Tesla?

Auto-shillelagh (2)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about 4 months ago | (#47041281)

Because canes are for lames.

Re:Auto-shillelagh (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 4 months ago | (#47041979)

Those are necessary for Irish people who have bad luck.

Room buffer overflow (-1, Troll)

BasilBrush (643681) | about 4 months ago | (#47041331)

The Linux people can't even organise a room without suffering from a buffer overflow.

(You have to see the disorganised nature of the event in the early part of the vid.)

Re:Room buffer overflow (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041543)

It got a little noisy, someone said "Sssshhh" and everyone shouted out their passwords.

I Concur (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041335)

I'll just keep using Windows. At least Microsoft can innovate instead of just copying everyone else work and crying "fweeeeeedom" in their best Braveheart voice.

Re:I Concur (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041365)

An old pro at the dog park, AC crawls up on hands and knees hungrily eyeing steamy links, fresh from the source... "mmm, That is one innovative pile of shit..." he grunts as he eats shit and dies.

No (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041339)

No I will not watch a lame video.

Garbage like this say nothing but hipster, douchebags.

Re:No (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041443)

No I will not watch a lame video.

Garbage like this say nothing but hipster, douchebags.

Comment like this say nothing but idiot.

Re:No (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041989)

No I will not watch a lame video.

Well that speaks volumes doesn't it, you obviously prefer the love-in echo chamber than to hear that your operating system of choice may not be perfect.

Garbage like this say nothing but hipster, douchebags.

Like what? You just said you haven't watched it...oh it criticizes Linux therefore it must be garbage.

Obvious ad is obvious. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041345)

Can we at least get a [Paid Post] tag/image or something, and let people with high karma filter this crap out?

Do you know who else is funny? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041347)

That Dave Barry fella is worth a chuckle or two. Why not shitpost about him as well Roblimo?

You can't trust him (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041349)

He drinks Shasta. His judgement is suspect immediately.

"Sucks" Is OK (3, Insightful)

VernonNemitz (581327) | about 4 months ago | (#47041377)

So long as other operating systems suck worse. Kind of like "democracy is not really a good form of government, but all the others suck worse".

Re:"Sucks" Is OK (1, Troll)

BasilBrush (643681) | about 4 months ago | (#47041417)

So far I'm 17 minutes into the video. And from the things being mentioned Linux sucks far worse than any of the commercial desktop OSs.

Looking forward to the "Linux doesn't suck" video, because I can't imagine what he can possibly say to counter the admissions of suckiness he's made so far.

Re:"Sucks" Is OK (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041547)

So far I'm 17 minutes into the video. And from the things being mentioned Linux sucks far worse than any of the commercial desktop OSs.

Looking forward to the "Linux doesn't suck" video, because I can't imagine what he can possibly say to counter the admissions of suckiness he's made so far.

Do you use Linux every day? Pretty much anyone who actually uses it knows it doesn't "suck". Why would you need a video to feed you an opinion?

Re:"Sucks" Is OK (2)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 4 months ago | (#47041995)

Actually when I first got Windows 95 I had a OS/2 user ask me how it was, and my response was "doesn't suck as bad as I thought it would".

Re:"Sucks" Is OK (1)

roman_mir (125474) | about 4 months ago | (#47041959)

The problem in your statement is obvious - red herring. If you have people asking the wrong question, then the answer will not matter. The right question is not 'which form of government is best?', the correct question comes from the first principles: 'what is virtue?' The answer is: 'non initiation of violence.' This requires that there is no form of government, since gov't by definition is monopoly on initiation of violence.

Re:"Sucks" Is OK (3, Funny)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 4 months ago | (#47041987)

Nothing sucks like a VAX.

Yes, Linux sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041437)

There's some serious face-palm material in the kernel, particularly in the less mainstream parts. But Linux sucks a little less than the alternatives, so we use it anyway, right?.

Leather Seats (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041439)

Wow, after listening to this I want a Prius with Leather Seats. Other than that nothing here move along.

Hey Slashdot... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041463)

Your video player fucking suuuuuucks. Won't keep the video buffered, keeps stopping.

I remember the asshats... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041467)

who, for years, trounced those lesser mortals for using anything less than Debian or Slackware. Then it was Gentoo, then Crux, then Arch. If you were not running a version of Linux that took "years" of your life to download, install, and configure, you were a loser of the highest order. Now? We have actually cool guys like Cory Doctorow using Ubuntu. A guy like him surely doesn't need the geek cred. I use Ubuntu at home myself and, as a *nix administrator since 1998, also feel I need to impress no one.

*kids' Linux book (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041479)

The possessive plural of "kid" is not "kids," but "kids'."

All Oses suck. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041483)

It so happens that Linux sucks less.

Clearly misinformed (2, Funny)

NoNonAlphaCharsHere (2201864) | about 4 months ago | (#47041493)

TFS is complete bullshit. There won't be Linux in 2039 because everyone knows time resets to Jan 1, 1970 in 2038.

Re:Clearly misinformed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041761)

I think that was the idea. :-P

Basic misunderstandings and self-contradictions (4, Interesting)

Khopesh (112447) | about 4 months ago | (#47041529)

OpenSSL doesn't listen to bug reports. They don't even accept offered patches to known bugs. It's this spirit of non-cooperation that caused the forking into LibreSSL. See the 30 day prospectus [openbsd.org] (/. coverage [slashdot.org] ) from the LibreSSL project lead, which details all of the problems. Brian even says forking is ultimately a benefit, and that he "loves that they're doing it."

It seems to be that his definition of "sucks" is "has room for improvement" ... Everything has room for improvement, so apparently everything sucks.

Every OS sucks (1)

neminem (561346) | about 4 months ago | (#47041551)

And blows! At the same time! [youtube.com]

All together now: every computer crashes, cause every OS sucks!

Re:Every OS sucks (1)

UnsignedInt32 (1118617) | about 4 months ago | (#47041803)

That''s somewhat the conclusion I've reached after I've been hopping between different OS. (Windows, Mac OS, Linux)

So I myself find that Linux is least painful for me, at least for the fact that it doesn't try to hide the details from me. While mileage may vary with the nature of the issue, but it at least it's relativy simple for me to <b>try</b> to address and fix the problem before resorting to complete fresh of the machine.

Lots of things sucks, and he still misses the boat (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041567)

Disclaimer: I didn't watch the entire video, so I suppose that makes me one of the idiots he asks not to comment.

There are lots of thigns about the Linux "Desktop" that have sucked in the past year, mostly due to project managers going completely off the rails and destroying years of design evolution in misguided ego. (Looking at you, Gnome),, but here he just complains about the only solution we have, the the one thing that makes Open Source software so strong. Forking is the only thing saving Open Source project from themselves. Sure, there is redundant waste of resources, and you might not like all the projects that are proposed, (*cough* Unity *cough*). But regardless, forking is how the best and most liked projects gain dominance, and bad and batshit stupid ideas are left behind to die in obscurity.

Why not just use Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041603)

Why not just use Windows? It was sluggish, unstable and unsecure in the past, but those problems are mostly fixed in NT 6. Why use some crusty open source solutions which do not allow me to squeeze out the most of my computer? Tell me.

Re:Why not just use Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041661)

*NT6.1

This site sucks now (-1, Offtopic)

Threni (635302) | about 4 months ago | (#47041611)

http://soylentnews.org/ [soylentnews.org]

If you're had enough of this sort of crap, why not hop over to Soylent News? It's like Slashdot used to be.

(They're voting on a less sucky name, but the site itself is sound).

Pretty much every OS suck, but... (4, Interesting)

MindPrison (864299) | about 4 months ago | (#47041701)

...at least with Linux, we have the power to do something about it without the constant hassle of a commercial system with all its secrecy, NDAs, policy approvals and we don't have to hide the fact we screwed up in order not go get sued by every paying customer, we just FIX it...and then another bug appears, but hey...have you ever found any human to be perfect? When you bought your first house, was it perfect? I bet not.

At least with OPEN SOURCE everyone is free to chip in, that is the magic of Linux. Suspect a bug? A backdoor somewhere? If you have the knowledge, you're free to look. I've been compiling my own Kernel since the early Slackware days, and albeit I'd never recommend this system to Aunt Daphne and rather have her purchase an Apple iMac instead...Linux is all about freedom. And if you missed this point, maybe Linux isn't for you.

Re:Pretty much every OS suck, but... (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about 4 months ago | (#47041775)

I rant a lot about quality problems of OSS, but admit that what you described is one of the best properties about the Linux world. It's something what keeps me hanging around. The open development process is very interesting and useful.

can I mod up the original post? (2)

vpness (921181) | about 4 months ago | (#47041755)

this was very funny diatribe (and I have mod points). I have mod points ! no, really, I do !

Moron (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041765)

This Bryan guy is a moron.

Re:Moron (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041901)

Why do you think he is a moron?

This video does a great job! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47041847)

... at making me want a shasta cola.

Linux really does have serious issues (5, Insightful)

Eravnrekaree (467752) | about 4 months ago | (#47042049)

Linux has many positives, there is no doubt. However, there are many problems with the system. The lack of applications leads to situations where a user is told is a great OS, but there is nothing on the OS that does what they want to do. Its great to have a kernel that works well but whats the point if you cant do what you need on it because of the lack of applications. Wine has been around for 20 years yet still has yet to develop an emulation layer that can run 99% of Windows applications reliably. It constantly breaks support for older applications carelessly. The changelogs seem to be filled with obscure performance hacks that lead to a .01% improvement in performance but it appears little is happening in major progress on supporting all of the Windows API.

The bigger problem is lack of hardware support, to the point that the application issue may just be a result of the problem with it being so difficult to get new, novel, or unusual hardware to work on Linux. The fact is, hardware makers will always provide better working drivers in a timely manner than backwards engineering. Its a pipe dream to think that many hardware makers will open source the drivers. By the time open source drivers come around, the hardware is often so old its not even being sold any more or is out of date. Some hardware has no drivers available.

This problem stems from the attitude of the Linux kernel developers. Many of the Linux community have an absolute aversion to actually working with hardware manufacturers to get hardware support implemented, especially with Dell. With Microsoft repetedly throwing Dell and other manufacturers under the bus, there was an opportunity to reach out to Dell to look at Linux as an alternative. This option has been thrown away by Linux. Linux could have gotten much wider adoption by accepting the users using small amount of binary code, which wouldnt even be required to be used as open source drivers would still be developed. Part of the problem as well is the badly documented or not documented at all kernel driver interfaces. It is actually almost impossible to find any comprehensive reference on kernel internals and the driver interfaces. Driver interfaces which seem to change with each kernel version as well, blowing up hardware support for users in the process. Backward compatability is critical throughout the system. Users need to be able to be assured they can use applications and driver accross kernel versions. I have suggested before a driver compatability layer for binary drivers so they will work between kernel versions.

Another problem is the bone headedness of Canonical and Gnome who have copied every disasterous mistake and disaster of Windows 8 in creating user interfaces that are incomprehensible. The fact is, for users, an interface that is well known and practical rather than some hair brained scheme concocted by some crackhead who thinks they know better than everyone else and wants to ram their self righteous idea of user interface design on users, as with Ubuntu Unity and Gnome 3. Just stick with the tried and true taskbar start menu paradigm, please. These people are actually worse than the kernel developers because they think that they are genuises with user interface design but are self absorbed, obsessed and arrogant with trying their insane user interface experiments without any sense of practicality or really caring about users at all. The user interfaces they create are vastly worse than what the kernel developers would come up with.

WHY (3, Insightful)

DeathElk (883654) | about 4 months ago | (#47042063)

I've watched two of these stupid talking head videos. Why is it that I've wanted to punch both of the subjects in the face?

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