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Debian, OpenSUSE, Arch, Gentoo and Grml Merge

Soulskill posted more than 3 years ago | from the simplifying-and-streamlining dept.

Debian 117

tomhudson writes "debian, arch linux, opensuse, grml, and gentoo are merging to create a new distro: 'We are to announce the birth of the Canterbury distribution. Canterbury is a merge of the efforts of the community formerly known as Debian, Gentoo, Grml, openSUSE and Arch Linux to produce a really unified effort and be able to stand up in a combined effort against operating systems, to show off that the Free Software community is actually able to work together for a common instead of creating more diversity. Canterbury will be as technologically simple as Arch, as stable as Debian, malleable as Gentoo, have a solid Live framework as Grml, and be as open minded as openSUSE.' Arch Linux developer Pierre Schmitz explained: 'Arch Linux has always been about keeping its as simple as possible. Combining efforts into one single distribution will dramatically reduce complexity for developers, users and of course upstream . Canterbury will be the next evolutionary step of Linux distributions.' This will without a doubt put on Ubuntu."

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Gay. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687604)

n/t

Re:Gay. (1)

HermMunster (972336) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689712)

This is almost as bad a practical joke as saying that Linus Torvalds was hired as the main kernel developer by Microsoft.

first April Fool post (1)

Hazel Bergeron (2015538) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687606)

/. so amusing.

Re:first April Fool post (2)

memnock (466995) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687804)

If you think this distribution will replace M$, go to page 21

If you think IBM will buy this group, go to page 34

Re:first April Fool post (2)

Hatta (162192) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687838)

I'm waiting until tomorrow, when I can get the first post-April Fools day first post.

Re:first April Fool post (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688338)

By posting today, if you didn't already have it, you could have got the April's Fool achievement. Assuming those still work :)

Re:first April Fool post (1)

adder (3667) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688534)

I had completely forgotten about the achievements. Time to see if they still work, I suppose ;)

Re:first April Fool post (1)

Flyerman (1728812) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689152)

achievements!

Re:first April Fool post (1)

suutar (1860506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689594)

For some reason when I read this I hear it being sung to the tune of "Tradition!" from Fiddler on the Roof. I think I need to get more sleep.

Re:first April Fool post (1)

slyrat (1143997) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689666)

Yay for achievements!

Re:first April Fool post (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35689408)

You'll also earn a tin foil hat in Team Fortress 2.

Re:first April Fool post (2)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689484)

Huh? Bahh, I've always been an underachiever anyway. Who needs achievements?

Get your Ars to... (2)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688596)

If you want to see what'll be posted here on April 2, get your Ars over to Technica.

Re:first April Fool post (1)

Dot.Com.CEO (624226) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689380)

Good point there!

Re:first April Fool post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35688066)

And you wasted it

Re:first April Fool post (1)

Klept88 (2010622) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688070)

Finally a reliable linux distro ,>

Re:first April Fool post (1)

buchner.johannes (1139593) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688412)

Not /., these projects are well-coordinated!

Re:first April Fool post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35689406)

You're an idiot, but I voted up your story submission [slashdot.org] anyway.

Fuck You (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687608)

April Fools Day.

To install (3, Insightful)

WhitetailKitten (866108) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687618)

Press [A|B|X|Y] to Jason

Re:To install (3, Informative)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687768)

JASON!

Re:To install (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687824)

Pants!

Re:To install (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688808)

I think he works for Mozilla now. You have to be really careful when dealing with book mark backups if you're a camp counselor.

And then... (1)

telekon (185072) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687640)

Microsoft GPL's Windows 8, followed by the descent of Mongol hordes on downtown Miami.

Still, I lol'd.

Re:And then... (3, Funny)

19thNervousBreakdown (768619) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687674)

Mongol hordes rappelling down from hot air balloons.

Re:And then... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35688360)

And then what ? toilet seat / bidet / analingus combo ?

Re:And then... (1)

Kell Bengal (711123) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688668)

I'm interested in your idea and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Re:And then... (1)

jhigh (657789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687806)

I have to be honest, this is the only April Fool's joke that I've seen today that did make me crack a smile.

Re:And then... (1)

tiksi (1527943) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689488)

Most April fool jokes from the likes of slashdot and google just make me go "I wish this was real" more than being funny.

*Still waiting for my TiSP hookup*

Re:And then... (1)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688518)

Have you ever been on the streets of downtown Miami? (not Miami beach which I learned the hard way is a different city separated from Miami by a BIIIIG bridge) Those Mongol hordes are gonna get a beat down.

April Fools (1, Redundant)

ZosX (517789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687642)

It just gets more disappointing every year.The vatican porn collection story was good tho.

Re:April Fools (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687750)

There's a Vatican porn collection? Torrent-me home skillet.

Re:April Fools (1)

MikeDirnt69 (1105185) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687898)

argh

Re:April Fools (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687914)

In the renaissance era, nudity was used as an artistic representation of purity and innocence. There are lots of paintings and statues of nude people at the Vatican.

Re:April Fools (1)

camperslo (704715) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688064)

Well it didn't become obscene until folks got too fat.

Of course that was before the Photoshop diet...

Re:April Fools (2)

Nexus7 (2919) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687822)

It's so hard to moderate on April Fool's Day. "Case closed on Jerusalem UFO"? "World Backup Day"? Are the jokes just getting more subtle, or is the world getting ridiculous? Maybe everything should get "+1 Funny" - could be funny 'cause it was a joke and the poster didn't get it, or got it but played it straight for fun, or it could be a true story, and all the serious postings show that the posters can keep a cool head in the midst of a mad day, and the non-serious ones, such as the funnies, trolls, and the flame-baiters are trying to lighten up a serious story on a fun day.

This is too hard, I'll just go back to hitting refresh in my gmail.

Re:April Fools (1)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687888)

It's so hard to moderate on April Fool's Day. "Case closed on Jerusalem UFO"? "World Backup Day"? Are the jokes just getting more subtle, or is the world getting ridiculous? Maybe everything should get "+1 Funny" - could be funny 'cause it was a joke and the poster didn't get it, or got it but played it straight for fun, or it could be a true story, and all the serious postings show that the posters can keep a cool head in the midst of a mad day, and the non-serious ones, such as the funnies, trolls, and the flame-baiters are trying to lighten up a serious story on a fun day.

This is too hard, I'll just go back to hitting refresh in my gmail.

(Call it whatever you like, Ceiling Cat has been watching you do it for years.)

But seriously, I'd just like to say thanks, because I've been trying to get gmail to refresh all morning, but never thought to use that that as the gesture [google.com] to refresh the screen. It works now!

Re:April Fools (1)

ginbot462 (626023) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688062)

Is that a subtle-subtle meta-April Fools comment? "Case closed on Jerusalem UFO" & "World Backup Day" were yesterday. So, yea, the latter. Organizers of World Backup Day may want to pick a different day ... unless there aim is to say a lot of viruses will wake up on April Fools. I could see that.

Re:April Fools (1)

Nexus7 (2919) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688538)

All very good points... yes, I agree. Maybe instead of refreshing my gmail, I should be refreshing by /. Or add a pre-bedtime viewing.

Re:April Fools (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688826)

World backup day being yesterday was a good idea. It gives people one last chance to make sure they're backed up before April Fool's day commences and they might need to recover their datas.

Re:April Fools (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35688402)

Well at least they're not the sort to offend people?

Microsoft diversifies and helps Japan in the clean up effort, invents nuclear-powered crematorium.

or

Then there was the environment group seen picketing in Washington with members carrying signs "Democratic and Republican Representatives For Bio-Fuel"... but none in the group were representatives

Re:April Fools (1)

inkrypted (1579407) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689070)

Kinda disappointing that there is no World Backup day. I know a few companies that could stand to observe that.

Re:April Fools (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687844)

That's Life's April Fools Joke... you get older each year....

*sigh* (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687648)

If only this post was a bit truthful...

Re:*sigh* (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687724)

Arch Linux has always been about keeping its USERS as simple as possible.

Isn't truthful???

Re:*sigh* (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687772)

Set up linux from a dvd, watch as it forms to your hardware. Many hours later enjoy Ubuntu working at 3% better speeds.

Re:*sigh* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687778)

My thoughts exactly

Re:*sigh* (1)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688494)

Actually, it was satirical, showing the folly of your simpleton desires.

Missing Option (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687660)

Rather, an unselectable option: I couldn't select "slapfights". That's even worse.

Would have been so much better if done correctly (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687666)

But sadly, this wasn't.

Re:Would have been so much better if done correctl (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688844)

I think it would've been better if they had Debian merging with FreeBSD, that would at least be plausible, for specific values of plausible.

Pants? But... but... I demand skirts as an option (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687682)

Or kilts.

Or is this like polls where you can't complain about missing options?

Too easy! (1)

VincenzoRomano (881055) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687690)

Nonetheless a nice one. Ubuntu and slackware [distrowatch.com] was missing, though.

Different Comments (5, Interesting)

ldbapp (1316555) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687692)

You get a whole different set of comments depending on which selections you make in the post. Awesome.

Re:Different Comments (4, Funny)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687796)

You know, if there is one saving grace to April 1st, on slashdot, I sure do get a lot more work done by not actually spending my time reading articles and comments.

Re:Different Comments (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688056)

If you are working, how did you get here? o.O

(sorry, the emoticon fit)

Re:Different Comments (2)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688504)

Also, the stories are generally more accurate than the rest of the year.

Thank god for no "PONIES!!" (1)

KWTm (808824) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689402)

Whatever they do with the April 1 thing today, I'm just grateful that we won't have to suffer through 6 stories of PONIES!!! this year. Crap, that was crummy! <shudders at the memory>

Re:Different Comments (1)

Inda (580031) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687890)

<p>No matter which

<select class="wordsuggest">
    <option>option</option>
    <option>choice</option>
    <option>selection</option>
</select>

  I choose, yours is the only post on

<select class="wordsuggest">
    <option>display</option>
    <option>show</option>
    <option>CowboyNeil</option>
</select>

.

Re:Different Comments (1)

zildgulf (1116981) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688274)

Now for something completely different:

HEADLINES:

Gaddaffy in talks with US, NATO. Wants to open the first "OMGBBQ and Catfish" restaurant in Arkansas, to avoid the "full Mussolini" treatment back home.

Don't forget Google (1)

XB-70 (812342) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687694)

Google will support the new distro and announces that it's changing the world's calendaring system so that a year is divided into 36 weeks with five World Holidays: New Year's, Americas Day, Africa Day, Europe Day and Asia Day. The months will no longer includ April because it's not funny.

Re:Don't forget Google (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35688462)

This would actually not be a bad idea.

newclear kode defies forks, knives deception etc (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687704)

so, only a fool would get caught up in namegenderiviations on any given day, whilst the chosen ones holycost badtoll rages as the kode (truth be told) remains highly unused. like being a fool requires it's own day? lighten up. disarm

Re:newclear kode defies forks, knives deception et (1)

webmistressrachel (903577) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687760)

Wow, here's another one of those encrypted messages. But no reply. There's usually a reply (an encrypted one, not just me trollin'!)

The most amazing thing? (1)

telekon (185072) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687710)

That all five of those distros could even agree on an April Fool's joke.
(The announcement is on all of their 'news' pages)

pants! (2)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687716)

Crow: Joel, I hate movies where the men wear shorter skirts than the women.
Tom: Yeah, I can just imagine a scene from Ancient Greece: "Oh, hi, Hercules, have a seat!! Noooo!!!"
Joel: You are so right my little itty buddies. That's why we've put together a presentation. It's a little thing we like to call: PANTS!
Tom: (singing) Pants
Crow: Pants!
Bots: Sing the praises of pants!
Joel: Nothing better shows my taste, than what I wear below my waist!
Tom: Say! Pants! Hoo hoo!
Crow: Pants!
Bots: Sing the praises of pants!
Tom: They help me suck in my gut They always cover up my butt! Huh? Pants!
Crow: Pants!
All: Sing the praises of pants!
Crow: Wear them and you're a cool guy, as long as you zip up your fly!
Tom: Zip! Pants!
Crow: Pants!
Bots: Sing the praises of pants!
Joel: (spoken) That's right ladies and gentlemen! Consider the PANT! You know, the Pants Association urges you to wear your pants at least three times a day!
Crow: The great men of our time have all worn pants! Roosevelt! Churchill! DeGualle! Ghandi!--Well, almost all of them!
Tom: Dolphins! One of the smartest mammals on earth. Do they wear pants? NO! But they wish they did! That's how smart they are!
Joel: What keeps our legs all warm and hot?
All: Pants!
Crow: What prevents a buffalo shot?
All: Pants!
Tom: What do they got that I ain't got?
All: Pants!
Tom: Well, you can say that again Huh?
[Deep 13]
Frank: (singing and marching) Pants! Pants! Yang dang dang dang da Pants! Dang'a dang dang uh ha..ha ? (Dr. F. walks up behind him and quickly picks up his microphone) DEEP HURTING! DEEP HURTING!

Right (1)

jkeelsnc (1102563) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687734)

hahaha. Yes, very good april fool's day jokes. Merging OpenSUSE and Debian? LOL the first thing that caused me to see that as odd is the fact that they have different packaging systems. RPM and DEB. :P Among other things.

Re:Right (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689084)

There's no reason that different packaging systems should be a problem. After all, it's the source you want to be common if you're creating a "common base". The packages are a distro-specific detail.

Think "UnitedLinux."

Remember how Suse was involved then?

Now, while this is probably an April Fools joke, the idea behind it is worth looking at, especially if you want to create a "rolling release". And the OpenSuse project already allows you to create packages in other formats for other distros ...

So, probably a joke, but wouldn't it be nice if it were also a trial balloon, with plausible deniability, just in case?

No problem. Just compile from source tarballs. (1)

FoolishOwl (1698506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689290)

It's just a matter of doing it old school.

sad that it is posted today (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687736)

if it were true, linux/gnu might actually get somewhere...

No, wait! I think this could be joke... (1)

FridayBob (619244) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687758)

Notice that no link is included to the new website for the Canterbury distribution. That's too suspicious.

Almost fooled me, there.

Re:No, wait! I think this could be joke... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687932)

Nah... The suspicious thing is that there's no link to a shitty blog that vaguely mentions the project but is filled with ads about Microsoft.

Re:No, wait! I think this could be joke... (1)

bmorency (1221186) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688140)

Here it is. http://www.debian.org/ [debian.org]

Re:No, wait! I think this could be joke... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35688752)

here is the original site - go check it out.. It's True
http://www.archlinux.org/news/the-canterbury-project/

I know it's april, but check out the google ads (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687780)

Is google ads also doing april fools? Check out the banner I got with this story: screen shot [googlegroups.com]

The ad was linking to: this [doubleclick.net]

Good april fools but (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687794)

if something like that ever happens, dont choose something like "Canterbury" as distro name.

April Fools (1)

johnsnails (1715452) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687854)

... Ahhh this is an good end to the night in oz, well done /.!

Tweaks fail (1)

itsdapead (734413) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687872)

The tweaks should have let me choose:

..As [open-minded] as Debian, [technologically simple] as Gentoo, [stable] as Ubuntu etc...

Tweaks should not be inside quotes (1)

EmagGeek (574360) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687886)

Changing a quotation is verboten, even on 4/1.

Ahh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35687892)

I F'ING HATE AprilFool's Day!

tried it (1)

leaen (987954) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687910)

I tried it and discovered that description is wrong.
It is stable as Ubuntu, bleeding edge packages from Centos, newbie friendly as Gentoo, with great documentation from Arch and moreover I if you register you get technical support from Dell for free

Re:tried it (1)

denisfalqueto (987529) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689058)

But great documentation from Arch is not an oxymoron.

Maybe ... (1)

Jastiv (958017) | more than 3 years ago | (#35687916)

Maybe they could merge and finally fix the dependency hunt problem with all those libraries and out-dated packages for each distro. Applications could actually come with the version of the library you need rather than relying on distributions to get it right.

Yrubretnac would be possible (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35688012)

as one distro that combined all the shortcomings of debian, arch linux, opensuse, grml, and gentoo: Gentoo's compilation of every package, debian release cycles and grml configurability.

This merger was my idea! (3, Funny)

formfeed (703859) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688058)

I'm pleased that they finally did it, just wanted to let everyone know: This merger was my idea!

And a fine idea it is. About the only way to stop that ever-spreading cancer called Ubuntu. A distribution that simply takes, never ever gives back to the community, and above all brings people into our community that never had the right to use linux in the first place. People can even "try it out"before installing it.

Come on, do you "try out" Zen or Karate? No! You don't! You wash your master's car and polish it , you do the lowest duties for years and years, there is no elevator to the mountain! But no, not with Ubuntu! Some people, who should really be using windows, can now claim that they have their laptop, their desktop, their file-server, and their media center running linux! Without ever going through the required amount of suffering!

I welcome the merger and I plan to start a petition later today: the new super-distro should have only a text based installer and standard maintenance login only through a remote serial console!

Re:This merger was my idea! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35688210)

I'm pleased that they finally did it, just wanted to let everyone know: This merger was my idea!

And a fine idea it is. About the only way to stop that ever-spreading cancer called Ubuntu. A distribution that simply takes, never ever gives back to the community, and above all brings people into our community that never had the right to use linux in the first place. People can even "try it out"before installing it.

  Come on, do you "try out" Zen or Karate? No! You don't! You wash your master's car and polish it , you do the lowest duties for years and years, there is no elevator to the mountain! But no, not with Ubuntu! Some people, who should really be using windows, can now claim that they have their laptop, their desktop, their file-server, and their media center running linux! Without ever going through the required amount of suffering!

I welcome the merger and I plan to start a petition later today: the new super-distro should have only a text based installer and standard maintenance login only through a remote serial console!

I lol'd, and agree!

Cancerbury (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688730)

Playing along:

About the only way to stop that ever-spreading cancer called Ubuntu.

Detractors will likely call this new distro "Cancerbury". I guess you have to fight cancer with cancer.

never had the right to use linux

GPL. What other right are you talking about?

People can even "try it out"before installing it.

Grml isn't the only distro to have a live CD. Debian-based Knoppix and the lightweight distro Puppy are also live CDs. But I'll admit that Puppy was my gateway drug to Ubuntu.

Some people, who should really be using windows

When Windows came out, smug MS-DOS weenies said the same thing about Windows users "who should really be using" Macs.

I welcome the merger and I plan to start a petition later today: the new super-distro should have only a text based installer and standard maintenance login only through a remote serial console!

Good luck with your server distro.

OMG!!! Ponies!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35688284)

ponies!!! [google.com]

Just wondering (1)

proslack (797189) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688324)

Will it support PnP wireless?

This proves it! (1)

plopez (54068) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688578)

BSD is dying.

Re:This proves it! (1)

FoolishOwl (1698506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689494)

BSD will never die. Just look at those uptimes!

Apple and Microsoft to collaborate also (1)

wrightrocket (1664871) | more than 3 years ago | (#35688786)

Windox 8 will be a joint effort of Apple and M$ bringing the best features of each of their OS's to users.

Oh yes, we *just* wish (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35688794)

Hate april fools, actually would give said distro a spind & feedback in case it ever were to materialize ... though hell freezing over seems way more plausible

Canterbury Tales reference? (1)

FoolishOwl (1698506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689438)

I'm wondering if the name chosen, Canterbury, is some sort of Canterbury Tales reference -- a diverse group of travellers? I didn't see any jokes in the names of people quoted, but I assume those are actual people associated with the different Linux distributions.

One distro (1)

fahlesr1 (1910982) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689444)

One distro to rule them all,
One distro find them,
One distro to bring them all
and in the GPL bind them!

Now this is some good journalism (1)

kyrio (1091003) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689460)

Why can't all /. articles be this good?

I got really excited then... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35689548)

I realized it's April Fools day!!!!!!!

too much... (1)

MtJason (1923342) | more than 3 years ago | (#35689832)

One semi-believable story mixed in with the real stories would go a lot further than this string of obvious nonsense.
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