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PCLinuxOS 2009 Goes Gold

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the a-hearty-handshake dept.

Operating Systems 90

nerdyH writes "After nearly two years, the PCLinuxOS project has achieved a major new release, PCLinuxOS 2009. The project is notable for maintaining a Linux hardware compatibility database, publishing a freely downloadable monthly Linux magazine, and selling hardware pre-installed with Linux. It boasts a pretty vibrant community, too, and is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers, according to an ongoing reader survey there."

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Stupid name! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27160757)

That's all, folks!

Re:Stupid name! (2, Funny)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161169)

It could be worse, they could have called it iPCLinuxOSMacXWin/2.

Re:Stupid name! (0, Troll)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162055)

EVERY comment I make, Pudge's minions throw me a troll mod. It's nice to piss off Hitlerites.

Re:Stupid name! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27162137)

It's because you don't fucking swear enough. Cunt.

Re:Stupid name! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27164097)

Hey, watch your fucking mouth, asshole.

Re:Stupid name! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27164941)

I think you're modded "troll" only because there's no such thing as "unfunny". If there were a "you-THOUGHT-you-were-funny-but-you-really-really-failed" mod, then I would be begging others to "mod parent up" at this point.

In all fairness, the replies below your post are even worse that your original. Even my own reply here is below my usual standards, and had to therefore be anonymous.

So I guess in all fairness to US... your post was so lame that it make all who came after lame for having followed you.

Re:Stupid name! (1)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 5 years ago | (#27167421)

Either that, or the people who modded me down were Nazis. Which is more likely?

Re:Stupid name! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27170207)

Hmm... well I suppose one can't really argue with that logic.

Fast download (2, Informative)

Anna Merikin (529843) | more than 5 years ago | (#27160849)

Re:Fast download (3, Insightful)

anagama (611277) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161337)

Why should I download? I've checked out the main site, at least the top pages on the site, and it doesn't say why I should care about pclinux. Compare with Debian, Ubuntu, or Gentoo -- these suggest a reason for using any of those right off the bat. Fedora is a little more vague, but then Red Hat can be a little more coy than others.

This is the first thing said about PCLinuxOS [pclinuxos.com] :

The Ripper Gang is pleased to announce the final public ISO release of PCLinuxOS 2009.1. This release features kernel 2.6.26.8.tex3, KDE 3.5.10, Open Office 3.0, Firefox 3.0.7, Thunderbird 2.0.0.14, Ktorrent, Frostwire, Amarok, Flash, Java JRE, Compiz-Fusion 3D and much more. We decided to use kde3-5-10 as our default desktop as the we could not achieve a similar functionality from kde4. We will however offer kde4 as an alternative desktop environment available from the repo once we stabilize it.

That alphabet soup doesn't really inspire at all. Now, I actually know that I don't want to use Gentoo, but the first thing from the site makes it seem tempting [gentoo.org] :

We produce Gentoo Linux, a special flavor of Linux that can be automatically optimized and customized for just about any application or need. Extreme performance, configurability and a top-notch user and developer community are all hallmarks of the Gentoo experience. To learn more, read our about page.

TFA (2, Informative)

Anna Merikin (529843) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161421)

...said the download was slow and that KDE-3.5.10 was the desktop. I corrected both misstatements in my post. I did not recommend PCLinuxOS. I said I was downloading the Gnome version...to test it out.

If you want to check out PCLinuxOS and want a fast link, my post should be of value.

If you know you won't like it or don't need it, don't download it from my fast link.

Re:TFA (1)

iYk6 (1425255) | more than 5 years ago | (#27174957)

I don't think anagama was actually responding to you. I think he had a legitimate comment, and he just "replied" to your post because he wanted to get near the top.

Too many websites and online services don't specify what they are, and why you should care about them. That sort of information should be on the home page.

Re:Fast download (2, Funny)

Joe Snipe (224958) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161725)

I actually know that I don't want to use Gentoo

No worries, with all the configuring and compiling, you'll never have to. Welcome to the fold!

Moore's law and Gentoo (2, Interesting)

mcrbids (148650) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162403)

I first tried Gentoo on an AMD K62 with 96 MB RAM. Back then, a usable system took at least a week if there were no compiler errors. Which there were, I never got it working because I gave up after the first week or so.

But now, Moore's law has largely mitigated this nightmare - you can have a working system in a few hours! Of course, the faster systems also obviate a primary need for Gentoo (performance) but...

I'm sticking with Fedora, thanks!

Re:Moore's law and Gentoo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27165287)

Well, as long as we're talking, I first tried Gentoo on a Pentium 233 with 64 MB memory. Also took a couple of weeks to compile KDE on that, but it actually ran pretty nice, at least compared to Windows 98se.

Now, it's 3 years later and I'm still with Gentoo on all my home machines :)

Re:Moore's law and Gentoo (2, Funny)

GMFTatsujin (239569) | more than 5 years ago | (#27167681)

With today's PCs, Gentoo compilations also fail much faster, so you can tear your hair out sooner. I suppose that's progress...

Re:Moore's law and Gentoo (1)

Dan Ost (415913) | more than 5 years ago | (#27167709)

I got a Dell D630 a short while ago. It took about 15 minutes to wipe windows and get up and running in Gentoo. It took longer than that to get all the apps I wanted installed, but the apps I *needed* (fvwm, ssh, xterm, vim, firefox) were usable within the first 15 minutes.

I started using Gentoo maybe 5 years ago. I do remember having to set aside an afternoon whenever I got a new machine, but those days are long gone.

Re:Fast download (0, Redundant)

Architect_sasyr (938685) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162031)

Oblig XKCD: http://xkcd.com/125/ [xkcd.com]

If you're going to the site, chances are this applies.

Re:Fast download (1)

Amazing Quantum Man (458715) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162201)

PCLOS is done by TexStar, who was famous for his Mandrake specific packages, back in the day.

Knowing what I do about those, I'm going to give PCLOS a shot.

Re:Fast download (2, Funny)

ciderVisor (1318765) | more than 5 years ago | (#27165391)

Knowing what I do about those, I'm going to give PCLOS a shot.

Great, cos what the world needs is one more PCLOSer.

Re:Fast download (1)

tibman (623933) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162781)

Gentoo is still my fav distro. I think it's the fact that you grow the install from the tiniest of seeds and touch every config to get it all just right.

Normal distro's just don't do it for me anymore.. a fresh kubuntu install feels stillborn.. where's the love? the commitment? Gentoo has always felt like an extension of my psyche. There's something very satisfying in compiling your Kernel for ONLY the bits of hardware in your box. To know that every port open and service running is because you commanded it, not because it's the default thing that came installed.

But there is a flashy installer now, binary distributions of OpenOffice and stuff for those who don't want to compile everything. Gentoo Linux Security Advisories (GLSA) are great for letting you know what hole needs plugging. The best part though.. the community!

Re:Fast download (1)

tenco (773732) | more than 5 years ago | (#27163283)

I'm using unix-like OSs since a good decade now (IIRC it started with a SUSE 5.2 or 5.3) and being forced to configure every bit of configuration yourself gets pretty meh after a while. Including rolling your own custom kernels especially when there's no good reason (kernel modules) to do so in 99% of the cases.

I tried a lot of different linux distributions during these years but I always come back to Debian for a reason I don't know. I wonder if this is some psychological kind of thing, like, I am more the Debian kind of guy...

Re:Fast download (2, Interesting)

sgbett (739519) | more than 5 years ago | (#27164547)

I have to agree I just can't get away from it. The initial build is incredibly painful, doubly so atm because upgrading the default GCC in 2008.1 (4.1.2) to 4.3.3 so you can set your march to core2!

I realise this makes me sound like your typical ricer, but make no mistake I *know* it aint gonna be (noticably) faster, but as parent said - its knowing that its right is what counts. If you can maximise how well your OS is tailored to your box, and minimise cruft it makes it far easier to figure out problems (imho). I certainly give credit wher it is due to distro's like ubuntu That also offer things like kde 4.2 I just feel that if something goes wrong - what then? The boards for ubuntu/gentoo are a world apart in my anecdotal experience. Understandably though. If you chose Ubuntu, its probably because you can't/won't understand whats going on behind the scenes.

Anyway I feel gentoo is a delight to work with. Portage is incredible, it gives you so much control of your build and yet its learning curve is not too steep.

I try not to promote gentoo by highlighting the problems with other distro's - I think it stand on its own merits. My personal experience with RPMs has been terrible, I like to hope that this is down to my failure to grok them, otherwise ther is a lot of pissed off people out there that don't know any better!

In fact I would go so far as to only recommend gentoo to people who I think will understand where it is coming from, and why it is like it is. Everyone else? might as well just get a mac ;)

Re:Fast download (2, Funny)

sgbett (739519) | more than 5 years ago | (#27164571)

shit. apostrophe police are gonna be on my ass.

Re:Fast download (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27171931)

I have to agree I just can't get away from it. The initial build is incredibly painful, doubly so atm because upgrading the default GCC in 2008.1 (4.1.2) to 4.3.3 so you can set your march to core2!

I realise this makes me sound like your typical ricer, but make no mistake I *know* it aint gonna be (noticably) faster, but as parent said - its knowing that its right is what counts.

When compiling my own code, I have seen many cases where setting -march to a *different* CPU than I was using resulted in better performance. So I just have to say: you are a typical ricer. You don't really have any idea whether what you're doing is better or more right, you just want to play with knobs and feel like you're optimizing your computer. Appearance is more important than substance. That is the essence of ricing.

Re:Fast download (2, Insightful)

aurispector (530273) | more than 5 years ago | (#27165121)

Ok, so your criticism is that the website isn't shiny enough? God, I'd hate to be your waiter. If you haven't tried the distro itself, it's hard to give your attitude any credibility.

That being said, I spent part of yesterday playing around with the gnome version and came away extremely impressed. The 2007 version was very good, and these guys spent a lot of time ironing out bugs and making it simple to set up and use. Everything worked for me right out of the box, the package system is excellent and if you want to fiddle with settings there's an easy to navigate menu system. This is a great distro both for ease of use and for letting you look under the hood without first becoming a command line god.

Try it and you may end up wondering why people get so worked up about Ubuntu.

Re:Fast download (1)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 5 years ago | (#27165825)

not lack of shine, lack of any compelling reason to try a Mandrake/Mandriva forked distro...what's this going to do that Mandriva won't? Hardware compatibility list, pfft, there's piles of those out there.

Re:Fast download (1)

FrostDust (1009075) | more than 5 years ago | (#27166421)

Ok, so your criticism is that the website isn't shiny enough?

His point was that PCLinuxOS does a poor job of advertising it self, and enticing a potential user to try it out. If you're trying to get people to download something, your first priority is to convince them that would want to download it. The Gentoo example he gives is a good example. In a few words, it tells you that Gentoo is custimizable and speedy. Yes, there is more under the hood than that, but you suddenly have a feeling of if Gentoo is interesting for you to try out or not.

The parent compares this to the PCLinuxOS site which just rattles off a list of included software. This may be suitible for the change log, or in an actual "Included Software" section, but is a confusing block of text to a first-time visitor to their site. If it instead said something like "PCLinuxOS is sleek, easy to use, and includes many popular programs," then you'd actually get an idea of why you should try it out, and maybe be inclined to learn more.

Re:Fast download (1)

aurispector (530273) | more than 5 years ago | (#27169091)

I got his point the first time. AFAIK this distro is produced on a shoestring and I'm sure they have little time and less money to worry too much about this sort of thing. From what I've seen of the distro they chose to spend their very limited resources polishing the actual product, which is very shiny indeed, among other nice things.

That being said, I happen to agree re: the website's front page, but there are other ways of communicating. A plug on Slashdot is probably better than a nice website anyway.

Re:Fast download (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27170593)

I'm thinking the same thing. I went to the comments hoping to read some useful opinions, but almost a whole day later, the only two comments that show up are 1) a useless joke, and 2) someone complaining about the website of all things.

How about software compatibility? (1, Funny)

metamechanical (545566) | more than 5 years ago | (#27160925)

Does it run Antivirus 2009?

Re:How about software compatibility? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27161057)

Don't you mean PCAntivirusAV 2009?

Re:How about software compatibility? (1)

Barny (103770) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162069)

Hrmm, just had a new one pop up on a customers machine, "Antivirus 360", they are not very creative with their names :/

Re:How about software compatibility? (1)

Pope (17780) | more than 5 years ago | (#27171981)

We're going to turn this Linux distro around 365 degrees!

The Problem with Linux/Opensource (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27160941)

Dear Linux,

For the Love of God(For emphasis only)stop fragmenting!

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27161177)

Dear AC,

Fuck you.

--Linux

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (1)

vk2 (753291) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161329)

Jon - Quit browsing slashdot from the loo, wipe your a$$ and get back to the show; we have more cnbc a$$whipping to do!!

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27164461)

Trollish, flaimbaitely, yet the most correct answer indeed.

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161223)

Do you consider linux to be perfect? I doubt it, otherwise you wouldn't have complained. THAT is why forking is necessary, because different ideas have ideas of how things should be done, and no one has the perfect idea. Eventually, out of all the experimentation, we will come up with something that works, and everyone will get behind it and it will become standardized (except those who are doing something specialized, for example, embedded linux).

If you think you can make the linux distro that is perfect, go for it! If you are right you should have no problem getting the rest of the world behind you. Heck, I'll get behind you too! Until then the best we can do is ask for compatibility between distros. That is why we have things like the Linux Standard Base (once again, it will not always be followed because some people have completely different needs).

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27161251)

Don't feed the trolls. Fragmentation is so minor a problem for Linux filesystems there is only one distro -- Debian -- that even bothers to offer a defragmentation utility.

FUD does not need a defensive reply. Just tell the truth and let it fall where it will.

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (2, Funny)

master5o1 (1068594) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161285)

Sure, Linux file systems don't need defragmentation, but there are a hell of a lot of distributions to choose from.

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (1)

freedom_india (780002) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162899)

?? Debian as in Ubuntu?
Pray, tell me where can i find this "defragmentation" tool in my Ubuntu AM64 distro?
Because the damn swap file takes so much time to create each time that iam sick.

defrag (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27177411)

is (was) the name of the utility I mentioned. You might find it in the 'etch' repository, and, if so, it might install and run on ubuntu-8.10; I have successfully installed one or two 'etch' .debs with success.

I dunno what it might have to do with a swap file, but -- whatever.

Good luck!

Re:defrag (1)

freedom_india (780002) | more than 5 years ago | (#27177661)

I checked it. It does NOT exist for 64-bit.
Any utility i can buy?
Like Diskeeper?

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (1)

ais523 (1172701) | more than 5 years ago | (#27163687)

Actually, the "standard" defragmentation utility on Linux is tar, although it rarely needs to be used. If for some reason you want a defragmented filesystem (say you want to send the entire filesystem to someone for some reason and want the resulting file size to be as small as possible when compressed), you can do it by tarballing the system up and untarring it again (although that isn't an in-place defragment, so takes twice as long and requires the system to be no more than half full). A separate defragmenter is therefore an optimisation for a rarely-needed task that can be performed by other means, so no wonder they're rare to find on Linux.

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (1)

pmarini (989354) | more than 5 years ago | (#27164161)

who cares about fragmentation anymore, given that file allocation on USB drives and SSD is done at hardware level anyway... ?

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (1)

robthebloke (1308483) | more than 5 years ago | (#27167711)

Pfft! Our webserver is using C90 cassette tapes as it's primary storage. I started re-booting it in July, and I swear the first thing I'm going to do is defragment those frickin tapes when it's done....

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (0, Troll)

Jamie's Nightmare (1410247) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161561)

For a large majority of people, doing 50 things poorly is not better than doing a few things well. Though you'll never see it that way with a Unix mentality.

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (1)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161619)

For a large majority of people, doing 50 things poorly is not better than doing a few things well.

Indeed we should install Ubuntu desktop on routers and web servers.

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (1)

tenco (773732) | more than 5 years ago | (#27163313)

For a large majority of people, doing 50 things poorly is not better than doing a few things well. Though you'll never see it that way with a Unix mentality.

In case you wonder: Unix mentality: doing 50 small things very well.

Re:The Problem with Linux/Opensource (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27163665)

"Eventually, out of all the experimentation, we will come up with something that works"

Hahahahaha.

yeah, when we're all long dead and buried.

(-jOmegaTheta, Unfunny) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27165511)

THAT is why forking is necessary.

Fork you, asshole !

Variety is the whole point of Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27162981)

Linux is all about NOT tending towards monoculture (not talking about the software project).

Variety is the spice of Linux :-)
The recommended way(TM) of starting to use Linux is to join a LUG and get hold of a mentor, so to say. This eliminates the need for painfully testing every distro out there and then finding out that so-and-so distro is good for your specific needs.
Therefore, I highly recommend use of virtualbox - it allows you to test drive the system without reintalls, it is free, freedom free too.

and it is super simple point and click to operate.

If getting distros is difficult, buy a CD/DVD if you can. If you cannot afford either, you can enlist your name at one of the "ShipIT" and free CD/media/DVD projects like Fedora has or like Ubuntu has or maybe you could get something from On-Disk
Nowadays, PC magazines on stalls also carry recently released Linux distros.

Point is, all those distros have their uses and many can be changed from one niche to another by simply downloading the additional packages from Synaptic.

The great thing about Linux today is that most distros are moving towards Synaptic for package management - so that installing and removing software has become standardized. That is a great thing - like an OOP "interface".
"Distro XYZ supports Synaptic interface for package management" -- future sales pitch ;-)

You just need a sensible, respectable or at least knowledgeable "mentor" to initiate you into the ways of Tux.

You also have Google.
If you ask me for my preference - PCLinuxOS - it is a rolling release - not for the impatient - for whom the Virtualbox solution is the safest.

PCLinuxOS teaches you so much patience when you jump about for "new features" that it is a path to wisdom by means of resisting temptation ;-)

IT is also rock solid and stable if you follow the basic steps always - install/remove packages from Synaptic ONLY.

Ubuntu is about the zoo, but they do make stable updates after the release - and what marketing clout / street-cred it has!!

PCLinuxOS is for the safety-first people, who have been ravaged by distros and features (PackageKit in FEdora 9 or KDE4.0 in various distros, come to mind, for example)

is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers... (4, Funny)

Bearhouse (1034238) | more than 5 years ago | (#27160969)

Who presumably like' kde 3.5 *slashes wrists*

In other news today, (and I'm not joking), Bill Gates once again became the world's richest man *shoots self in head just to make sure*

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27161391)

PCLinuxOS is available in a Gnome version. If you've tried KDE-4.0 or 4.1 (I have) you understand is not is not stable enough, let alone feature-rich enough, for ordinary use. 4.2 is more stable on my UE (Ubuntu) but slow as snailmail (Pentium-M 1.6GHz) -- nearly unusable.

NB: I've used KDE since ver. 1.0 (1999) although its slowness made be fire up Blackbox instead many times. I tried Gnome v.1.0 when it was released, and its WM crashed every few seconds. I went back to KDE and avoided Gnome like a plague. The novelty of KDE-4 made me check it out. It did not work on my box. All I got was a three-second stutter on the screen and no audio at all. So it was go back to Mepis and KDE-3.5.10, which was not an option on UE-2.0-Xmas, or try Gnome again: What a difference 10 years makes! It is stable and usable. It can be made pretty. It does whatever I need, although the learning curve is steep, me having grown used to KDE all these years.

I may try KDE-4.2 or later once I finish my new box: Core-2 3.33GHz and 4GB RAM ought to be enough....

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (1)

pseudonomous (1389971) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162277)

This is really just me guessing, but I wonder if the problem with KDE 4.2 being slow on your current machine is an issue of the graphics card as opposed to either processor speed or insufficient memory. At any rate, if you've got hardware that can handle it, KDE 4.2 is very bueatiful, usable desktop.

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (1)

Javaman59 (524434) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162825)

I used KDE 4.1 for a while on a computer from 2004 - 2.4 Ghz, 1GB, 128 MB graphics card. It was as smooth as anything - it seemed to run even faster than KDE 3.5. I went back to KDE 3.5 though, because the 4.1 tended to crash. Apart from the crashing, yes, it was a very beautiful, usable desktop (even on old hardware).

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27164177)

Because a 2.4 GHz CPU with 1GB RAM and a 128MB display adapter is so anemic and old in the context of desktop wm performance!

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (1)

tenco (773732) | more than 5 years ago | (#27163389)

This is really just me guessing, but I wonder if the problem with KDE 4.2 being slow on your current machine is an issue of the graphics card as opposed to either processor speed or insufficient memory

KDE 4, the Vista under the desktop environments. SCNR.

I hope this will get better with Qt 4.5. I like most of the KDE apps over their GNOME counterpart (KMail vs. Evolution, KPdf vs. Evince, ...) but they are unusable because of their current "speed". A working desktop search would be nice, too. Nothing I've seen so far comes close to Beagle. What I really don't like about KDE 4 is Plasma, but that's another issue...

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (1)

tuxgeek (872962) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162377)

Yep, same here.
Tried F10, PC-BSD 7.0.1, & Mandriva 2009, all with KDE 4.1 and noticed they all had subtle differences but all were hideously slow and squirrelly as hell. KDE4.2 is being promoted as equal in functionality to 3.5.10 so may be interesting to see when it makes it into a distro ... Ubuntu 9.04?

Unfortunately I find Ubuntu is too unstable for my needs so still sticking to Lenny w/ KDE 3.5.10 for the foreseeable future.

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (1)

ais523 (1172701) | more than 5 years ago | (#27163703)

KDE 4.2 is in the Ubuntu 8.10 "proposed" repositories, mostly (the packaging for Kate is broken at the moment). Running Ubuntu-proposed is probably a bad idea for anything but a personal or experimental machine, though, as it breaks every now and then. As you don't like unstable distros, it's almost certainly a bad idea for you, but there might be other people around here who want to try it out.

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (1)

jdinkel (1028708) | more than 5 years ago | (#27168153)

It looks like kde 4.2 will be in Ubuntu 9.04.

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (1)

yuna49 (905461) | more than 5 years ago | (#27170365)

KDE 4.2 is in the current 9.04 alpha releases [ubuntu.com] of Kubuntu. I upgraded my 8.10 installation to the alpha release the other night. A couple of hiccups here and there that I'd guess will be smoothed out over the coming month.

The most annoying thing was that I lost my restricted codecs. I understand full well why Ubuntu can't distribute the codecs in some countries like the US, but I don't understand why the existing codecs vanished. Most of the time it doesn't matter to me because I generally use smplayer/mplayer and build the latter from svn snapshots. I only discovered the codecs were gone when I suddenly couldn't play MP3s in amarok.

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27167883)

Yep, over a year after their initial release of KDE4 (pre-release, beta release, developer's release, who the hell knows what they were trying to do), and the KDE team still doesn't have a stable working environment. It's slow and clunky, and the only real advantage at this point over 3.5.X seems to be worthless eye-candy. Admittedly, almost of the stability issues are due to plasma.

KDE needs to drop Aaron Seigo like the dead weight he is. He's dragging the project down.

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (1)

mjwx (966435) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162663)

In other news today, (and I'm not joking), Bill Gates once again became the world's richest man *shoots self in head just to make sure*

Not true, the richest men in the world are still the Arabian oil sheiks, most notably the Saudi king and royal family. But Forbes does not count these people as "men", claiming that they are states. The forbes "rich list" is BS as they go to extreme lengths to discount anyone who isn't from the US (the Queen of England cant even make the list as the richest land owner in the UK). If we include the oil sheiks Gates doesn't even make it into the top 10.

Re:is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27165091)

(the Queen of England cant even make the list as the richest land owner in the UK)

Being pedantic, the Queen is the only land owner in the UK. When you buy a house here you don't buy the land, you buy the "freehold". This isn't just archaic legal mumbo jumbo. It reflects the fact that you don't own the land (the Queen does), just the right to live on it rent free.

Lies, Damned Lies... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27160995)

It boasts a pretty vibrant community, too, and is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers, according to an ongoing reader survey there."

And self-selecting surveys are always accurate...

Re:Lies, Damned Lies... (1)

pete-classic (75983) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161229)

I think that you're being sarcastic, but I recently ran a survey in Pollster's Quarterly that supports this conclusion!

-Peter

Re:Lies, Damned Lies... (1)

tenco (773732) | more than 5 years ago | (#27163411)

(...) DesktopLinux (...) Pollster's Quarterly (...)

I never heard of any of this magazines(?) before now. Do they have a representative readership?

Re:Lies, Damned Lies... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27165737)

Yeah, your Mom reads them !

Throw it on the pile (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27161045)

with the 17,395 other distros that no-one uses.

Re:Throw it on the pile (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27162455)

Better yet
Stuff it up your butt with your winblows disks

How It's Different (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27161293)

It's easy to use and it's fast. Think of it like Mandriva for setup ease over Ubuntu, while performing like Xubuntu claims. If you like trying distros, you've got some older hardware, and you're not geek enough for Gentoo, PCLOS will be a quick favorite. Esentially instant no-fuss full KDE that's snappy on older boxes like p3 450.

That's not the intent of the project, but that'll be the distinguishing characteristic for the greater penguin masses. The actual intent of the project is only sufficiently different from other distros that we're talking a grain of detail lost to anyone who cannot name more than six current distros they've have in-depth experience with. And those people already know all about it.

Re:How It's Different (1)

Spudtrooper (1073512) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161451)

Tried it for a while. Got tired of having Amateur Hour on a computer my wife has to use and went back to a rock-solid Ubuntu LTS install.

Re:How It's Different (1)

high_rolla (1068540) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161705)

I'll agree with you that there are more polished distributions out there. That's not the point however. The point is that there is choice and that's great. There is no real lock in, it's really easy for you to go with whichever distro you prefer. Also that anyone can enter the market with their own distro with little effort.

I think it's great to see people diving in and having a go. Not everyone will succeed but that's life. I'm not certain but I would hazard a guess that most of the other major distro's had similar beginnings to this and weren't as polished as they are now when they first started.

Its pretty sad... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27161455)

Its pretty sad how many ubuntu fanboys are still sore about PCLinuxOS getting ahead of them a little while ago in the distrowatch rankings.

Re:Its pretty sad... (1)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 5 years ago | (#27161631)

I'm looking at distrowatch now and PCLinuxOS is 7th place with Ubuntu at 1st, not that I care however I find your comment confusing.

Re:Its pretty sad... (1)

pseudonomous (1389971) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162303)

At some point last year (or the year before?) PCLinuxOS beat Ubuntu out for first place on the distrowatch rankings. I don't know why it happened, I don't remember how long it lasted, and I don't really know why it matters.

Re:Its pretty sad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27162961)

So what should we think of you then, A person who reminisces the reactions of other people to a meaningless event that must have been several years back?

why is this news? (0, Offtopic)

sofar (317980) | more than 5 years ago | (#27162791)

This story gets accepted but the xfce 4.6 release isn't? slashdot has lost it's purpose... oh wait, never had any :/

Best Linux Distro By Far (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27163567)

It's sad to see all the hate on here for PCLinuxOS. It has always led the pack as the distro best suited for mainstream adoption. Between HW compatibility, ease of installing, UI and snappy running speeds it puts every other distro to shame (Ubuntu included).

Be happy, this is a huge milestone for Linux!

Sounds like bollocks to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27164849)

It has always led the pack as the distro best suited for mainstream adoption.

Bollocks it has!

Between HW compatibility, ease of installing, UI and snappy running speeds it puts every other distro to shame (Ubuntu included).

Bollocks it does!

Be happy, this is a huge milestone for Linux!

Bollocks it is!

PCLinux users are obviously delusional and have never actually used mandrake/mandriva, Fedora, Ubuntu or any of the other userfriendly linux distros out there.

Confusion alert confusion alert (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27163879)

Too many distro's and disjointed projects in linux land. Confusion alert.

way ahead of ubuntu (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27164683)

The main reason for ubuntu's success is the way they make propaganda and let people think it is user friendly when in reality they have a long way to go. The ubuntu forums are huge partially because people have so manny problems with it!!

people still cant trust ubuntu to have the gui tools they really need, the chance of missing features and missing gui tools is still high for some tasks esspecialy by default.

pclinuxos uses the mandriva control center which makes it instantly superior over ubuntu.
ubuntu has been trying to reinvent the wheel for years and still has not reached the user friendly luxurious ease mandriva and pclinuxos users are and have been enjoying for years.

mandriva and pclinuxos are very much alike but mandrivas repositories are much larger than those of pclinuxos so I prefer mandriva.
pclinuxos on the other hand
seems better polished better looking and optimized. or atleast thats the feeling they seem good at giving the user. and feelings do count.

The name... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27165043)

"PCLinuxOS 2009"? Seriously?

Any relation to "Windows Antivirus 2009"?

i use it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27166769)

and my dad uses it, my two brothers also use it. They're very happy with it. They curse windows now. just my 2 cents here.

What's in a name? (1)

xdaemon (31170) | more than 5 years ago | (#27167059)

Does anyone else think the name PCLinuxOS is dumb? I guess it's the generic terminology crammed into a single word, but it makes me think 'first day in a community college computer class'.

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27167595)

I have used PCLinuxOS 2007 for some time now. It has been pretty good. In fact, it seemed to me to recognize hardware (wireless, RAID, etc.) better than any distro I tried with the possible exception of SUSE. Fedora is too unstable and too much of a moving target. For me, CentOS goes on my servers (live, production machines in a multi-million dollar company), PCLinuxOS is used for quick and dirty booting on machines on the bench and Windows replacement on workstations. I like Debian too, but configuration is more involved. I have some NAS devices based on Debian. It just runs and runs - no problems. Every time I try Ubuntu and Gentoo I am not impressed (JMHO). PCLinuxOS is the type of distro that you just install and use out of the box. If you want to customize, maybe it's not for you. For non-for-profits of people that get donated computers, PCLinuxOS is your friend.

PClinuxOS (1)

irright (1369385) | more than 5 years ago | (#27172491)

The best desktop linux available.

Target Users (1)

Umangme (1337019) | more than 5 years ago | (#27181125)

People generally use an OS they feel is better for the purpose they intend to use it for. So an OS has to have a target of users that they want to reach. They need to offer something that will make people see something rich in their OS.

What does PCLinixOS have? Who actually benefits from using PCLinuxOS as opposed to using any top quality Linux OS or even a Windows or a Mac?

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