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Gentoo Officially Not-For-Profit

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the call-jerry-lewis dept.

Linux Business 227

iswm writes "The paperwork for the Gentoo Not-For-Profit entity was approved by the State of New Mexico today. This means that as of today, the Gentoo Foundation is an official Not-For-Profit Corporation in the United States. The process of becoming a Federally-recognized not-for-profit entity, which will take about six months for approval, can now begin."

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no more taxes (3, Insightful)

millahtime (710421) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364395)

Hey, this makes them tax exempt. Way to save money!!!!!

Re:no more taxes (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364523)

There is a significant difference between a "not-for-profit" and a "non-profit". In particular, not-for-profits are _not_ federally tax exempt.

I'm not aware there is much difference between a for-profit and a not-for-profit from a tax perspective.

Any CPAs around?

Re:no more taxes (4, Informative)

kfg (145172) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364531)

Hey, this makes them tax exempt.

In New Mexico.

The blurb was badly written. They are not tax exempt in the United States and the standards for state tax exempt status are usually somewhat different and easier (fill out the forms) than the federal standards.

About six months from now Gentoo may or may not be nonprofit in the United States.

KFG

rtfb (2, Insightful)

eean (177028) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364920)

except thats exactly what the blurb says

The real question is.... (1, Funny)

coolfrood (459411) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364406)

...how long will it take to compile the documentation to make Gentoo a not-for-profit organization?

Re:The real question is.... (1, Funny)

millahtime (710421) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364416)

...how long will it take to compile the documentation to make Gentoo a not-for-profit organization?

Your Answer:

The process of becoming a Federally-recognized not-for-profit entity, which will take about six months for approval, can now begin

Re:The real question is.... (5, Funny)

Nakkel (748351) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364458)

Didnt take too long for the answer to emerge.

Re:The real question is.... (0, Redundant)

I confirm I'm not a (720413) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364461)

I think the real answer to the OP's question ("how long will it take to compile the documentation to make Gentoo a not-for-profit organization?") involves "emerge"...!

(Obligatory, uninformed anti-Gentoo flame: ...and it'll take a lot longer than six months ;)

Re:The real question is.... (1)

RevDobbs (313888) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364475)

The real question is: If they're "an official Not-For-Profit Corporation in the United States", what exactly is going to happen six months from now?

I don't mean to nit-pick, but that submission could have used a little proof-reading; it just doesn't logically parse...

Re:The real question is.... (2, Funny)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364624)

emerge --deep 501c

Compiled yet? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364407)

Has Gentoo finished compiling yet?

lololololol

OMG THAT WAS A GOOD ONE

So now it can join the ranks of SCO...... (-1, Offtopic)

MrIrwin (761231) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364415)

.....whose business objectives are not exactly clear but they are certainly **not** for profit;-)

Before the compiling jokes arrive. (5, Informative)

anonymous coword (615639) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364421)

Remember that Gentoo now supports binary packages for those giant software such as KDE and OpenOffice.org. Also check the Wikipedia article [wikipedia.org] about Gentoo.

oh? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364426)

why do they want to become a corporation?

Re:oh? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364441)

money.

Re:oh? (1)

I confirm I'm not a (720413) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364493)

Some troll^Wone ought to tell them that "not for profit" status is a terrible way to make money, then.

Re:oh? (1)

kpansky (577361) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364544)

Not at all. For profit is just about how proceeds are handled within the company. Non profit CEOs can still make plenty of money and pay their employees well. Its more or less just a tax code definition rather than the charity type connotation that you seem to associate with the term.

Re:oh? (1)

I confirm I'm not a (720413) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364603)

I see it as a tax-code definition (otherwise they'd presumably just become a charitable foundation?), but I also don't see gentoo.org sitting down and deciding "let's become a not-for-profit so our CEO can get rich quick." I could be completely wrong, but my understanding of Gentoo is that they took this course for stability rather than greed.

Re:oh? (1)

kpansky (577361) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364917)

Right. It just seems that all too often people tend to equate non profit with charitable and sometimes it irks me :-)

Great! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364432)

The process of becoming a Federally-recognized not-for-profit entity, which will take about six months for approval, can now begin.

By the time my current compile finishes, Gentoo will be a Federally-recognized not-for-profit. Woohoo!

Re:Great! (2, Funny)

chegosaurus (98703) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364518)

Repeat until funny.

donations (5, Interesting)

PimpbotChris (775813) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364438)

does this mean donations will be tax deductible?

Re:donations (2, Informative)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364522)

In New Mexico, possibly. But the federal paperwork is just starting, and they don't get 501c status until all the goats have been sacrificed.

Re:donations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364651)

yes, but I doubt buying the slick t-shirts they sell is also deductible. Oh well, its worth the cash. I wish they would just sell stickers or something...

Re:donations (4, Informative)

klieber (124032) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364653)

It depends on what 501 status we pursue. 501(c)(3) organizations are considered "charitable" organizations and donations to these entities are tax deductible. 501(c)(6) is a trade organization and organizations to these entities are not tax deductible.

Re:donations (4, Funny)

klieber (124032) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364745)

and organizations to these entities are not tax deductible.

Of course...that should have said "and donations to these entities are not tax deductible."

/me goes to emerge coffee

Re:donations (4, Informative)

bgeer (543504) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364677)

No, incorporating as not-for-profit doesn't necessarily make you tax exempt. All not-for-profit means is that you don't distribute dividends to shareholders, but rather reinvest any profits (or funnel it to management...)

In order to be able to receive tax deductable contributions you have to apply to the IRS to be a 501(c)3 tax-exempt organization. The blurb on Gentoo.org doesn't say what section they're applying under, but it would be pretty surprising if the IRS granted them charitable status. It's usually reserved for charities, artistic or literary foundations, churches, etc.

Celebrate (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364442)

Celebrate by Donating to Gentoo [paypal.com]

Linux is not for profits? (5, Funny)

Realistic_Dragon (655151) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364455)

Then how do they square the fact that it's used by Linus, Robbins, Stalman and all those other agents of God eh?

Will the government remove their not for prophet status if they discover how deep the OSS religion goes?

Re:Linux is not for profits? (2, Funny)

no longer myself (741142) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364581)

Will the government remove their not for prophet status if they discover how deep the OSS religion goes?

Maybe, but then they will get a tax exempt status for being a religion, and maybe even qualify for funding under the "faith based initiative".

And in other news (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364456)

Nobody cared.

Here's Bob with the weather.

It's wrong!! (0, Troll)

borgdows (599861) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364460)

gentoo business plan is :

1) fetch packages
2) compile
3) ???
4) PROFIT!!

Re:It's wrong!! (4, Funny)

mdarksbane (587589) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364490)

No, obviously now it's:

1) fetch packages
2) compile
3) ???
4) !PROFIT

Re:It's wrong!! (1)

stokkie (628016) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364989)

It took quite some time till this obvious joke emerged.

Um, so they're not for profit yet? (1)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364467)

This isn't really a story, since as the summary states, they still have 6 months. This shouldn't have been run until then! What if something comes up in the mean time?

Re:Um, so they're not for profit yet? (1)

millahtime (710421) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364477)

What if something comes up in the mean time?

If something comes up in the mean time then that story will most likely be /.ed too.

Re:Um, so they're not for profit yet? (5, Informative)

klieber (124032) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364633)

That's inaccurate. We are a not-for-profit organization right now. Today. The Federal status (which is mainly for tax purposes) will take another 6 months to formally complete.

Re:Um, so they're not for profit yet? (1)

dont_think_twice (731805) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364667)

Um, a dupe?

Of course they're not for profit... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364469)

...they're a Linux distro. Isn't not-for-profit implied?

Re:Of course they're not for profit... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364495)

you are an idiot.

Re:Of course they're not for profit... (-1, Offtopic)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364611)

There American , isn't not-for-protif [brillig.com] implied.

'The estimated population of the United States is 294,256,444
so each citizen's share of this debt is $24,535.31.'

Re:Of course they're not for profit... (1)

dont_think_twice (731805) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364707)

They are American , isn't not-for-protif implied. 'The estimated population of the United States is 294,256,444 so each citizen's share of this debt is $24,535.31.'

I don't think you understand how the national debt works: it is like a credit card. We just keep charging to it, and eventually, when it gets too high, our daddy will come in and pay it off for us. Hopefully he will buy us a new car then too.

Non profit Corpoartion - what this actually means (5, Informative)

JaF893 (745419) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364484)

As far as Linux and Gentoo are concerned this can only be a good thing and it is certainly a very positive step. For those interested in finding out a bit more about what this actually means here are a couple of Wikipedia links:
Non Profit Corporations [wikipedia.org]
Non Profit Organizations [wikipedia.org]

automated responses (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364485)

Standard, auto-generated, wannabe funny slashdot responses:

How long will it take to compile their forms?

More like 6 years after everything is compiled.

They better hurry and get going!

I wonder how long it took to compile a decision.

OMFG, GENTOO SUXORS!

Compiling is ok, but how much real-world benefit does one get?

One more reason to love Gentoo.

I'm sick of all the Gentoo zealots.

I'll take apt anyday.

emerge suks! urpmi is teh shitzors

There, you can stop reading now.

Okay, a question... (2, Interesting)

WhiskerTheMad (765470) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364488)

So what niche is Gentoo aimed at? Mandrake is for n00bs, Redhat's for suits, Slack is for people who have an unhealthy obsession with config files.

I've been looking for a new distro lately. Where does Gentoo fall in this list?

Re:Okay, a question... (1)

Syzar (765581) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364542)

People like me who are living on bleeding-edge?

Re:Okay, a question... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364547)

I'd say somewhere around Slackware, you do a fair amount of manual config file editing. However, I think package management is fairly simple.

Re:Okay, a question... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364553)

Gentoo is aimed at those that really loves compiling. :)

Re:Okay, a question... (0)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364711)

.... Gentoo is aimed at those that really loves [wanking over porn] while waiting for a compile. :)

Bleeding Edge (1)

bircho (559727) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364584)

Gentoo users have a unhealthy obsession with last hour' releases and broken brand new software. (BTW, gentoo running here)

Re:Bleeding Edge (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364602)

It really doesn't have to be though, the majority of my packages are x86, and a lot of those could even be updated to newer versions, because I don't use -u world.

Re:Okay, a question... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364605)

Gentoo is and always has been for the power user with real computers.
It offers a lot in the way of flexibility unlike the binary only distributions, but it's not for the impatient or new linux users.
Being that Gentoo is sourced based and community driven you will find pieces of it that come from every other major distribution which is pretty darn cool when you think about it. One of the first things that attracted me was the ability to make changes to it and get a system built that matched my needs and being able to work so closely with the developers to effect long term change.

Hope you find what your looking for..

Re:Okay, a question... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364623)

Gentoo is for masochists.

mmm, unhealthy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364660)

Yes, and when I go in to work this morning the Slack box kicked under my desk will have 273 days of uptime.

And yes, it will be running.

Slackware: When you want to get the work done.

Re:mmm, unhealthy... (1)

Krach42 (227798) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364796)

Just remember, Jesus runs Slackware.

Re:Okay, a question... (5, Informative)

irexe (567524) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364683)

Gentoo is for people that want the ease of use of Debian's apt-get with the benefits of source compilation (optimization for your specific machine, smooth integration with source compiled packages) and support for The Latest Stuff.

Gentoo is as easy to maintain as Debian, but it is generally more geared towards people that want the latest stuff on their desktops (whereas Deb is not very desktop-friendly). In comparison to the desktop distro crop (Redhat, Suse, Mandrake, etc.), Gentoo stands out favorably (IMHO) in that it is much more accessible and maintainable from the command line. This may scare noobs, but tweaking the ol' config file is a lot more deterministic and promising than dealing with dialogs like 'there was a problem with your network device' and with custom vendor kernel weirdness.

So, to sum it up: Gentoo combines the best of both worlds: it is a very hard-core, clean, unixy distro with a very refreshing attitude towards desktop usage. IMHO, the only thing that beats Gentoo on your desktop will be OS X!

Debian is not only Debian-stable (1)

muyuubyou (621373) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364860)

Debian unstable or testing cover that. I don't know how those optimizations were done in the tests, but all the benchmarks I've seen so far Debian is the winner.

I'm a Debian/Slack/freeBSD user who will give Gentoo a shot sometime soon. One think I'd love to do is establishing some kind of standarized benchmarks. Uptime is not everything for the desktop.

Re:Okay, a question... (1)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364861)

IMHO, the only thing that beats Gentoo on your desktop will be OS X!

In my data center we are actually using both. I also use Gentoo at home. Though I think I'm one more KDE problem away from the main box being reformatted to XP by my wife.

I many care about having the latest version of KDE. She just has this unnatural obsession with DVD's playing back every time she sits the baby in front of the tube, complete with sound and not looking like ass.

For the record I am usually able to accomplish this. There are just those days...

Gentoo better Desktop distro than Debian? (1)

funkytwig (780501) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364866)

So what is so great about Gentoo as a Desktop and bad about Debian. I use Debian as a Desktop and it is great. The only gripe I have is it is a bit fiddly to set up X, but with Knoppix (which is Debian based) this is partly solved (i.e. I steel its XFree86-4 file).

As far as I am concerned to be good for Desktop it should be relatively easy for the first time Desktop novice to get it working, from what I here Gentoo requires more time/teche effort to get installed so how could it be a better Desktop GNU/Linux?

Don't get me wrong I have heard a lot of great things about Gentoo but ease of first install is not one of them.

Re:Okay, a question... (2, Insightful)

Dan Ost (415913) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364906)

I like gentoo because it's easy to install (can use any boot media that
supports chroot, including another partition), gives me a clean base system
without anything I didn't ask for, makes installing and updating software a
breeze, and has a community that is active and friendly.

Basically, I like it for all the reasons I like BSD.

yay for gentoo (3, Informative)

vmircea (730382) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364494)

I personally love Gentoo, hopefully now that they won't have to pay taxes and get other benefits they will be able to give the Gentoo users a little bit more, although they've been doing a great job so far. And for people who don't know what Gentoo is, since it's pretty popular but not everyone knows about it. It is a Linux OS that compiles most packages (except for open office, unless you're crazy, like me). Take a look at it here [gentoo.org] .

How about FOR profit? (4, Interesting)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364498)

Why the rush and excitement over being able to say that you make no money? How about charging people for Gentoo, making a profit on it, and creating wealth, instead of a non-quantifiable warm & fuzzy feeling? I'm sure this will instantly be modded Troll, Flamebait, or Heresy, but I don't understand the pride people have in being able to declare that they make no money.

Re:How about FOR profit? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364556)

Probably the pride people take in helping their neighbors. Oh wait, right wingers take pride in stealing from their neighbors :-) I forgot.

Re:How about FOR profit? (1)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364727)

Lift wingers like to party and have as many people around as possible, but don't take pride in 'how many people we had round'

Right wingers like to build bigger fences so they can try to forget that the neighbours exist, and do take pride in 'how big there fence is'

Re:How about FOR profit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364570)

This doesn't mean they can't make money. It means they are not driven by profit. Corporations that are for not identified as Not-For-Profit are required by law to try to make a profit for shareholders. This means the organization can focus on making better technology. Money made is pumped back into the organization.

Re:How about FOR profit? (2, Informative)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364573)

Working for a non-profit, its all about donors. Many benevolent organization (Pew, Carnegie, etc) really prefer to give to an official non-profit (assuming it's not mandated in their charters.)

NFP status also makes Gentoo eligable for numerous government research and education grants. That's money with not strings attached, save to do the work as stated. No corporate tie-ins, no funding pulled because you are competing with their product. Of course there are political issues that are difficult to negotiate, but you have a development and giving department to handle that.

Re:How about FOR profit? (1)

radja (58949) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364574)

because now, Gentoo is creating wealth instead of merely redistributing wealth.

Re:How about FOR profit? (5, Informative)

zanderredux (564003) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364591)

Gosh, I had mod points but I'm giving them up so I can reply....

Basically, being a NFP will relieve much of the money-making pressure on Gentoo, so they can fulfill their Social Contract [gentoo.org] , without having to compromise it so they can mmet some aribitrary profit targets imposed by shareholders and so.

NFP also is a testimony to their commitment on giving back to the community instead of giving to some high-profile exec or a limited bunch of anonymous shareholders.

In principle, it's a good thing, but let's see how they can get a cash flow going (not necessarily profit, but they should have at least the means to keep paying their bills on time).

Re:How about FOR profit? (2, Insightful)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364595)

How about those of us that get a "warm & fuzzy feeling" about just being part of a global community ?

A question I always put to capitalist people is "What do you deem to be *ENOUGH* money?" to which I can never seem to get an answer.

I fail to understand the mechanics of using money to just make more money. Surely there is a point when you have enough money (say, to buy that new Learjet or something) in which case there is some goal to aim for.

This is why I never understand the pro-Microsoft people who always quote the "$60 billion in the bank" figure.

So what? That money's not *doing* anything apart from sitting their getting bigger.

Call me a Communist hippy or whatever but I find life's more fun when I *don't* spend any of it thinking about money...

Re:How about FOR profit? (3, Insightful)

AMystery (725537) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364679)

Short answer: When I have it all.

Capitalists are not about making money, they are about destroying it. A capitalist wants to concentrate all of the wealth in one person.

I'm not necessarily a capitalist but I do have those impulses and I can tell you that given free reign, that is where they would lead.

Re:How about FOR profit? (1)

the unbeliever (201915) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364706)

If you have enough to buy anything you want without having to extend credit, then that is enough money. Microsoft will never have to worry about running out of money since they have that $60 billion in the bank, so they can pour money into holes until it fills up and starts a profit (ie Xbox)

To a true capitalist, there is never enough money, and I'm fine with that.

*ENOUGH* money (4, Insightful)

dpilot (134227) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364848)

Another one giving up mod to reply...

The real problem is a hijacking of the concept of 'money'. 'Money' was originally meant to be a means of extended barter. You need a chicken, I need work done on my house, but I have spare corn instead of a chicken. We could find a third party that needs corn, and has a chicken. Or we could come up with 'money' that lets us extend our barter system into a marketplace, and allows all goods to become more liquid.

Unfortunately, for some people money has turned into a measure of self-esteem. They're not even collecting castles, or jet planes, or home theaters, or any sort of goods, any more. They measure their success by incrementing digits.

Also unfortunately, as much as we'd like to think of the economy as an expanding pie that has room for everyone to get as much as they want without depriving others, it just isn't. Though there is some expansion, the finite size of the pie is painfully apparent to many. In order for the more successful to tick their digits upward, they end up taking away from others. In other terms, this can be called 'downsizing', 'offshoring', 'making benefits competitive', and the like.

Why this use of money is bad is that it's so easy to tick digits upward. Had these people been accumulating toys and property, it would be more obviously outrageous.

The nifty thing about a gift economy is that it lets you measure your self-esteem through contribution. But it does need to piggyback on top of a money economy, because goods in the real world aren't free, and we all need to eat and get out of the rain.

Finding the balance between gift and money economies, and getting Joe 6pak to buy into that balance, is the task for TruenGenius.

Re:How about FOR profit? (0, Troll)

aixou (756713) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364645)

I'm sure this will instantly be modded Troll, Flamebait, or Heresy

I think saying that is the trick to getting modded up. Lemme test it out.

Gentoo can suck me off. Yeah, it may be a little faster, but in the end, who wants to wait for all that compiling. I'm sure the mods will mod this flamebait, or troll, but you know? It really can just go suck me off. It sucks.

On a sad and pathetic note, I'm writing this on my Gentoo box.

Re:How about FOR profit? (5, Insightful)

klieber (124032) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364674)

How about charging people for Gentoo, making a profit on it, and creating wealth, instead of a non-quantifiable warm & fuzzy feeling?

Our software is GPL'd. You're welcome to pursue this. We chose a different path.

Lets start compiling! (-1, Redundant)

isNaN (45985) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364504)

Six months? I think my Gentoo install will be ready by then...

Re:Lets start compiling! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364631)

What? Are you compiling on some kind of ancient ENIAC machine?

Interesting (1)

Lobo_Louie (545789) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364511)

I knew Daniel Robbins was an Albuquerque resident, and has since quit Gentoo, but I didn't know/think they still would pursue NM tax free status.

Re:Interesting (2, Funny)

Krach42 (227798) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364862)

New Mexico is a gaping black hole that sucks people in and they never leave. I've had two friends move away just to come back here because this is where they found jobs.

Then of course there's all the other crackpots that live here, making Gentoo fit in real nice. Roswell's alien crowd, and the various hippy religious cults.

You can mod me down, but it's true.

The compiler jokes are becoming boring (5, Insightful)

JTunny (653851) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364548)

<Insert passe Gentoo related compile time joke here>

Making these jokes is getting to be worse than the zealots who made the ill-advised compiler flag comments in the first place.

Gentoo is an impressive distribution, although admittedly it has its faults (find me a distribution that doesn't). I'm glad I got to experiment with it before it became fashionable to make derogatory jokes about it. Tthere's a fair chance all the +5 funny/insightful diminishing comments might have deterred me.

Re:The compiler jokes are becoming boring (1)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364608)

I too have been playing with Gentoo since before Gentoo was cool. Well, popular. Ok, a cliche.

What I enjoy most is what most newbies bitch about. The minimalist installer. I just used the LiveCD to backup and restore a clients Win2K laptop last night. On that disk is a respectable arsenol to tools in the hands of a skilled wizard.

Portage, for it's warts, does the job. And where it doesn't it's simple enough to hack. I run my own offshoot for our in-house servers with a few custom ebuilds.

Re:The compiler jokes are becoming boring (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364964)

An "arsenol" huh? Perhaps they should add a spellcheker to this tool box?

Re:The compiler jokes are becoming boring (3, Insightful)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364639)

Been through Mandrake, Red Hat, SuSE & Slackware and I'm now at Gentoo and sticking with it.

The idiots that moan about compile times don't understand the timesavings of just doing an "emerge" occasionally to update the system after it's built. Sure, it's not foolproof but then what OS is?

Gentoo has a cool attitude - to just make a damn good product and not give a damn about how much money they can make from it.

Re:The compiler jokes are becoming boring (2, Insightful)

jadel (746203) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364887)

Gentoo is my distro of choice, not because of the excellent installation information (any documentation that can take you through installing from scratch and make you think that was easy afterwards is quite and achievement.) nor because of the funky build optimizations or the security patches like propolice. It's the ability to try out new and cutting edge software without the ridiculous dependency chasing that used to be the case when I used a more conventional distro.
All in all despite the odd hiccup, gentoo has been a very positive experience.

va lairIE/robbIE's PostBlock censorship devise (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364558)

probably won't be the profit leader for the SourceForgerIE(tm).

don't cry for US miguel.

previously titled:

va lairIE/robbIE answer yOUR questions interview (Score:mynuts won, TrollBait)
by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @10:19AM (#9356075)
is almost ready?

remember, keep it simple. no questions about the monIE, or gnu online dating. the 'answers' have already been prepared buy a cesspool of ?pr firm? hypenosys talknicians, & will be released as soon as the questions match them.

it all seems more like some greed/fear/ego based badtoll, where evile WINds up eating it's young, if you ask US?

this stuff is unbreakable, & wwworks on/in several (more than 3) dimensions.

from a post meant to be titled:

unprecedented evile nearly disempowered, forever?
(score: mynuts won:-) previously PostBlocked(tm) material reposted)

by a disorganized rag-tag team of a few billion near nobodys, using what was available to them, which was almost nothing?

& just who are some of unprecedented evile's local representative(s)?:

The contract was awarded to Accenture, formerly Andersen Consulting, over two competing contractors, Lockheed Martin and Computer Sciences (a veritas (cess)pool of evile stock markp FraUDsters). Several industry executives and analysts said that the award surprised them and that Accenture had widely been considered the outside candidate.

The award also brought controversy. Accenture is incorporated in Bermuda, and some critics attacked the idea of awarding a contract so valuable and important to national security to a company with its headquarters outside the United States.

After Accenture was named, Representative Lloyd Doggett, a Texas Democrat, suggested the company took advantage of an uneven playing field to win the contract over Lockheed Martin and Computer Sciences.

"If companies truly want to contribute to our nation's security, they can pay their fair share of taxes. If they want a slice of the American pie, they had better help bake it," he said in a statement.

A spokesman for Accenture said that the company paid United States taxes.

Representative Richard E. Neal, a Massachusetts Democrat and a senior member of the House Ways and Means Committee, also questioned the award.

"This decision is outrageous," he said, in a statement. "The Bush administration has awarded the largest homeland security contract in history to a company that has given up its U.S. citizenship and moved to Bermuda. The inconsistency is breathtaking."

the stock markup FraUD/softwar gangster payper liesense hostage grab 'business plan' is looking a little hapless now?

fauxking billyonerrors. sheesh.

lookout bullow. tell 'em robbIE?

all is not lost.

consult with/trust in yOUR creators.... the returns are immeasurable/infinite.

see you there?

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Since I'm not exactly an attorney... (1)

Dagny Taggert (785517) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364622)

or an especially smart businessman, could someone explain why Gentoo made this move at this time? BTW, I DO understand the contradiction with the name.

Less negativity please! (2, Interesting)

barcodez (580516) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364643)

Good on you Gentoo team - I wish you every success.

I might even put my money where my mouth is onces it's tax deductable.

Any plans to do the same in Europe?

True meaning of 'Not for Profit' (4, Informative)

LittleKing (688048) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364657)

I think there are several people that do not understand what a Not for Profit company really means. Not for Profit doesn't mean they do not make money it only means that they cannot have 'extra cash' on hand at the end of their fiscal year. They can still have money in savings because you can budget money into saving. Also at times, working for a NFP company can be a benifit since they can't have 'extra cash' then they sometimes pay really well.

Take Blue Cross Blue Shield (an American insurance company), they are actually a NFP organization. Most people don't realize this but it is true.

Re:True meaning of 'Not for Profit' (1)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364915)

Er, no. Most non-profits don't generate a whole lotta cash for anyone without a "vice" or "president" in their title. I speak from experience.

I've worked at a lot of non-profit startups (2, Interesting)

tjic (530860) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364668)

I've worked at a lot of non-profit startups.

Gentoo is a lot more sophisticated than most of my former employers, though.

They didn't get non-profitable status legally established until the bankruptcy hearings.

Aren't they non-profit already?? (1, Funny)

Eggplant62 (120514) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364701)

I mean, with all the latest press saying that "Linux is a Religion, not an OS", you'd think that they'd get non-profit status as a church or something.

Re:Aren't they non-profit already?? (1)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364952)

And Linus turned to his disciples and said, "Take this, the source of the Linux Kernel. It was written for you and for all people. Take and compile."

When it was finished compiling he drew out a patch, dissolved it in guiness and said "This is the blood of the project. It was shed for the corrections of all bugs. Take and drink."

They Can't have Profits!? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364720)

Could we at least give them a side of red and green?

Now the only ones that can make money… (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364736)

...are the "employees" of that organization! They make sure that they get very nice salary checks and their board, of course. All those donation hours will really help keep their costs down.

I guess someone finally found a sustainable business model for LINUX. At least they found one for themselves.

And this means (1, Funny)

metallikop (649953) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364742)

Free, untaxable, funroll-loops [funroll-loops.org] for the rest of us!

still no profit? still thirsty? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364755)


try this strange brew [kombucha.org] , that's good for you, & freely distributable too.

portage (1)

bender183 (447302) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364763)

emerge government-funding

Non-Profit? (1)

bfg9000 (726447) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364821)

Congratulations on joining the illustrious ranks of such heavy hitters as Nortel, [yahoo.com] Novell [yahoo.com] , and SCO. [yahoo.com]

Of course, these guys aren't TRYING to be non-profit ... except (of course) the guys at SCO, who seem to be basing their business decisions on the wisdom of the Magic 8-Ball.

Gentoo icon? (3, Insightful)

Chuck Bucket (142633) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364897)

Can Slashdot finally get a Gentoo icon now? One of these days you really think it should...

(insert joke that the Gentoo icon is still compiling here...)

CB

In Sweden (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9364961)

In Sweden it takes 0.1 second to create a non-profit organisation.... You in USA are so slow....

isn't VISA not for profit too? (2, Funny)

xutopia (469129) | more than 10 years ago | (#9364972)

Would this mean that Gentoo could take over the world like Visa did?
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