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Walmart Ships PCs with Lindows OS

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the penguins-in-the-heartland dept.

Linux Business 962

Tonetheman writes "Walmart is now shipping low cost PC's with Lindows pre-installed. And yes I know there was a review earlier on Slashdot about installing Linux on one of these bad boys. This is different and much more exciting. To think of the legions of rednecks who could now possibly be running Lindows instead of Windows..." There's a Newsforge story too. Hopefully Lindows makes a good impression.

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962 comments

best post! (-1, Offtopic)

YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701321)

My quality assurance agents have guaranteed that this post is of highest quality-or your money back. One for the CLITs!

Re:best post! (-1, Offtopic)

L0rdkariya (562469) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701335)

IAgreeWithThisMissionForToday.

Re:best post! (-1, Funny)

Sexual Asspussy (453406) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701350)

well done.

i'd buy a PC from Walmart. sure.

MOD PARENT UP AGAIN (-1, Offtopic)

L0rdkariya (562469) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701486)

n/t

Re:best post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701508)

AC's everywhere think this [mbnet.fi] of you.

Rage against the conformity. (2, Funny)

Big Dogs Cock (539391) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701324)

Trolling in the name of
Some of those that boot Suse
Are the same that bought XP
Some of those that boot Suse
Are the same that bought XP
Trolling in the name of
And now you run what they told you
And now you run what they told you
And now you run what they told you

95 is justified for running the games that you didn't buy
95 is justified for running the games that you didn't buy
Some of those that boot Suse
Are the same that bought XP
Some of those that boot Suse
Are the same that bought XP

And you run what they told you
Now your under control
And you run what they told you
Now your under control
And you run what they told you
Come on!

Fuck you I wont run what you tell me
Fuck you I wont run what you tell me
Fuck you I wont run what you tell me
Fuck you I wont run what you tell me
Motherfucker

Lindows? Is it ready? (1, Insightful)

drdata.nl (584604) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701325)

I though that it was still in beta, aren't they afraid of claims for 'not functioning like windows, despite the misleading name'?

Re:Lindows? Is it ready? (2, Funny)

T.Monk (585143) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701383)

well, it's beta, and they want the windows demographic, so it would follow that they would ship while still in beta... hey, if MS does it, it's gotta be right, eh?

Re:Lindows? Is it ready? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701465)

The suit MS filed over the Lindows name was thrown out, so they can be a little more bold.

Re:Lindows? Is it ready? (2, Interesting)

rector (580924) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701467)

They don't care about claims. They just say the the OS runs MOST Windows programs. This means that if the end user cannot run any particular Windows program (or even 100 programs), they always can say that there are 2 (or 200) programs out there that run perfectly (Noty to mention that most programs in general are rather basic comparing to big packages most people use.)

Re:Lindows? Is it ready? (0, Troll)

Lord_Slepnir (585350) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701493)

The funny part is that in beta it's probally more stable than Windoze is in it's final release. The other thing is that if you're buying your computer at Wal-Mart, then odds are that you could be handed a Macintrash, be told that it runs windows, and you wouldn't know the difference.

fp! (-1, Offtopic)

TPOCdeucalion (558984) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701328)

i claim the first post for linux kernel 2.4.10-pre10 =)

Since rednecks can't spell anyway.. (0, Troll)

wackybrit (321117) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701332)

To think of the legions of rednecks who could now possibly be running Lindows instead of Windows...

Rednecks can't spell anyway, so they probably think it's exactly the same as what they had previously.

Haha..... (3, Funny)

cp4 (250029) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701336)

Legions of rednecks killed me!

You know you're a redneck if: you run Lindows on a WalMart PC.

Re:Haha..... (1)

TheKubrix (585297) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701406)

hey now, even hillbillies deserve open source!

Re:Haha..... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701483)

just the sort of comment you'd expect from a Canadian faggot

Windows or Lindows (2, Funny)

91degrees (207121) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701340)

Why would people want to use a kludged together OS with loads of confusing legacy included for backwards compatibility and a cryptic API anyway?

Re:Windows or Lindows (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701452)

Fuckin' troll, like windows is new from the ground up. Take a look in the registry bitch, you'll find the word LEGACY

Re:Windows or Lindows (3, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701499)

Because the penguin is so cute?

SOme people need just a few Windos programs (1)

rector (580924) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701504)

If one uses mostly Unix and runs just a few Windows programs because he likes them, he may find convenient to run all his staff on a single OS without need to reboot.

Re:Windows or Lindows (1)

Jippy_ (564603) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701528)

Why would people want to use a kludged together OS with loads of confusing legacy included for backwards compatibility and a cryptic API anyway?

Wow, I didn't know Bill Gates even read Slashdot.

=-Jippy

Re:Windows or Lindows (1)

slide-rule (153968) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701547)

Why would people want to use a kludged together OS with loads of confusing legacy included for backwards compatibility and a cryptic API anyway?
Isn't that why I left Windows? ;-)

L/Windows (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701341)

Damn, that's gonna cause confusion with tech support.

"What OS are you using?"
"Lindows"
"Windows?"
"Yeah, Lindows"

If there is hope, it lies in the proles (5, Funny)

ematic (217513) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701344)

Seems like the wal-mart grade rednecks will be the frontrunners of the linux desktop revolution. Bet you didn't see that coming!

Re:If there is hope, it lies in the proles (2, Funny)

tid242 (540756) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701387)

To think of the legions of rednecks who could now possibly be running Lindows instead of Windows...

they'd better put the 'Redneck' language option back into their distro's, ever since RH rm'd it things just haven't been the same around here *sigh*..

-tid242

damn i need a better sig :(

Re:If there is hope, it lies in the proles (1)

FatAlb3rt (533682) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701441)

This implies that rednecks shop at Wal-mart. WTF?!

Re:If there is hope, it lies in the proles (1, Funny)

slam smith (61863) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701492)

This implies that rednecks shop at Wal-mart.

TRUE rednecks wouldn't be caught dead shopping in walmart, they dig through the dumpster behind the wal-mart.

Eep (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701347)

Wow, eep, w00t!

Superiority complex? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701351)

Maybe Walmart should of gone with MS because at least MS doesn't label their customer base...

Re:Superiority complex? (1)

sputnik73 (579595) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701385)

I agree with this entirely. Rather than embracing new converts to the open source community, we are calling them "rednecks?" It's so silly to judge someone based on where they purchase consumer goods. I seem to recall seeing a rather happy African-American in one of the Walmart adverts - do you think he knows he's a redneck? A black redneck...how amusing.

Re:Superiority complex? (1)

sbsaylors (556191) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701527)

black red-neck? hum... oxymorom or can one slang-nickname be so bi-polar? Silly. Of course one is race slang and the other a location (state of being?). Last concert me and misses met a nice redneck black couple and we kept buy each other long-islands all night - it was Skynyrd NBS. Anyways... nuff of that slop. Lindows GETTING to a major retailer is HUGE news. I wouldnt of believed if I didnt check out the website. Damn I still cant believe it! Walmart is one of the best and biggest --- isnt that what we've been asking for? A dynamic company to goto and sell to a HUGE MASS retailer? What is not to like? Sure if all first impressions of linux via Lindows sucks then I'll be the first to bitch & complain but I havent seen the product, but wallmart has and liked it. Anyways shopping at wallmart doubtful makes you a redneck. Dont we WANT everyone to like it --- including rednecks or grandmas?

the "wal-mart crowd" (1)

T.Monk (585143) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701353)

Are we sure this is a good thing? Now every billy joe bob in the territory is going to be calling me up wanting me to come fix his computer... at least with windows there were Microsoft tech support lines and stuff that i could pawn them off on.. "Sorry bud, I don't do Windows." They know i'm a *nix freak, so my number is going to be on the top of their list.. sheesh...

Re:the "wal-mart crowd" (1)

slam smith (61863) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701415)

Just change the root password on them. Then they won't be able to screw anything up. :-)

Re:the "wal-mart crowd" (5, Insightful)

bangpath (143367) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701421)

You know, I've a couple of posts around /. lately talking about how great the /. community is..caring and helpful, but in the few posts I see here so far, all I see it snobbery. Just because someone lives near a Wal-Mart or goes to a Wal-Mart to buy stuff (even if it's a computer), doesn't make that person a hick or a red-neck.

Maybe you people should be glad that Wal-Mart is embracing something other than Windows, instead of being so damn smug. Get off your high horse and join the movement, or shut the f*** up.

That's all I have to say about that.

Re:the "wal-mart crowd" (1)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701497)

Don't you get paid for helping people out? If so then this would be a good thing.

Jaysyn

First post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701355)

!!

So? (1)

l33t j03 (222209) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701359)

No one will buy them. Just like VA servers. Dell learned. So will Wal-Mart.

Linux, the Wal-Mart Operating System.

Fuck you bitch! (0, Troll)

destiney (149922) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701362)


To think of the legions of rednecks...

Fuck you bitch! I shop at Wal-Mart and I'm no redneck!

Re:Fuck you bitch! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701437)

yes, you are.

WMRNs! (-1, Flamebait)

tid242 (540756) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701447)

Fuck you bitch! I shop at Wal-Mart and I'm no redneck!

you might be while you're at Wal-Mart. heh, i used to shop at White-trash-mart,.... but then i got better...

ok, i'm kidding, there are redneck's everywhere (especially here in Fargo-hot damn, summer in the city...) so IMHO Wal-Mart & reddneck are not mutually inclusive.

not that i know wtf i'm talking about 99% of the time

-tid242

Re:Fuck you bitch! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701470)

Fuck you bitch! I shop at Wal-Mart and I'm no redneck!

As evidenced by the eloquent literary expression.

First post -- Linux Is Superior Again (-1, Offtopic)

tilleyrw (56427) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701366)

Now people will have a chance to more easily about the superiority of Linux.

Oh, first post.

new software suggestion for lindows... (1, Funny)

sporkee (523444) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701367)

To think of the legions of rednecks who could now possibly be running Lindows instead of Windows..."

in light of this, someone's gonna have to write some family tree software for lindows that lets your mother and sister to be one and the same...

computurds (0, Troll)

geekfiend (448150) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701370)

I'd like one of those computurds with the megaram and the gigahurts. Does it come with the www.pr0n.com installed?

-Joe
Not Funny, but I try

hm.... (2, Interesting)

daf00masta (581247) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701371)

Now I wonder how long it'll take for M$ to launch OE for Lindows, and carry all the virii along...FUN FUN FUN Or better yet, they try to sue Walmart for trying to bully out Microsoft products off the shelves by using anti-competitive tactics....

Call me crazy, but... (2, Insightful)

Elledan (582730) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701381)

I'm of the opinion that people (this includes everyone) should be made aware of the fact that there are different OSs, of which only a few can run the software written for another OS. With this rudimentary knowledge, the world would become a much more pleasant place to live in if you happen to work at a helldesk. Note: the typo was intentional.

Walmart is big enough to make this fly (5, Insightful)

dlur (518696) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701386)

A company as large as Walmart might be just big enough and have enough bargain-basement customers to make this fly. And at $299 for the Duron 850mhz model, who can't afford one of these.

One problem I can see is that the hardware in these systems might(and probably is) of sub-par level. Instability issues caused by poor hardware quality may undermine the "frugal" consumer's viewpoint of the *nix OS enviroment. Not to mention that they'll have a hard time finding tech support locally considering that most tech shops are generally geared towards MS products and not Linux.

Re:Walmart is big enough to make this fly (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701455)

Actually, Linux tends to run really well on cheap shitty hardware. Hell, I've had a motherboard which would not run windows setup no matter what (no kidding - kept crashing with a random error, problem went away with mobo replaced). Linux ran rock-solid on the thing. If it's supported, it will be way more solid than any windows version (including win2k, nt, xp, whatever - those crash only a little less often than 9x).

I just hope... (1)

GnomeKing (564248) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701388)

that they have replaced the old winmodem with a hardware one like they said they were going to

Although I'm sure that the lads down at wallmart have tested lindows on their new machines properly

...

...

...

right?

p.s. I just noticed a little checkbox under my post... what is a Score +1 Bonus? and why did I get the option of having one?

ignore that p.s. (2)

GnomeKing (564248) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701416)

It would help if I read the FAQ before asking :D

No Score +1 Bonus (1, Offtopic)

Sean Clifford (322444) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701490)

Welcome to high Karma. When your Karma gets above a certain level, your posts will automagically be given a score of 2 --- unless you check the box, then you won't get the bonus and will have it rated at the usual 1.

Your Karma can't go above 50. Interestingly, it took a year to get to 25 and just one month more to get to 50. [Shrug]

Will games be tested with wine now? (5, Insightful)

bluGill (862) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701393)

AFAIK, Lindows is based on wine. Wal-Mart customers will tend to buy a lot of games for their computer. Sounds to me like manufactures will soon find it a requirement to test their games with Lindows, and thus they will be wine compatable too.

Not as good as native linux games, but a close second. If nothing else this could drive some real compitition to microsoft!

If only it works... I'm not holding my breath yet.

Re:Will games be tested with wine now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701491)

Actually, emulated games work much better than native ones in most cases. Remember the Linux version of tribes 2? Well, you will not be able to play it in about 2 months, because they will release a new version for windows, thus making all the servers incompatible with linux clients. I'd rather have it "emulated" than outdated.

Re:Will games be tested with wine now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701538)

Thanks for the laugh of the day

Windows v. Lindows (4, Funny)

Rinisari (521266) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701394)

Redneck just got a computer...
1997: I got Winders Ninedy Eight!
2000: I got Winders Doodousand!
2001: I got Winders EckPee!
2002: I got Linders? What da hell is Linders?

windows (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701396)

... the customer takes the computer at home, grabs a copy of windows 2000 or xp from a friends, removes that crap lindows and installs windows on it ...

Re:windows (1)

dup_account (469516) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701460)

You know, all the bitching that the M$ whores do about Linux advocates immediately jumping in a saying something new from M$ sucks... Yet here, all of the posts so far have been from M$ whores saying how Lindows sucks, the name is confusing, and it's going to fail.... And it ain't even out yet. <big><sigh/><big>

"legions of rednecks?" (2, Insightful)

macsox (236590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701397)

so, first of all, nice stereotype. i guess all the fat, dateless, acne-scarred men on this site need something to chuckle about between visiting sites analyzing spock's deepest thoughts and pron.

and second of all, why would you be so excited about these legions of rednecks using lindows? does nobody here see that computers today are the same as automobiles in the 50s and 60s -- that, back then, it was an elite group of youngsters that really got into the maintenance of and differences between various machines. now mechanics are a dime a dozen, and near the bottom rung of the social ladder, in most places. indeed, they are rednecks. santayana [brainyquote.com] would know what warning to give.

Wal-Mart (1, Insightful)

johndou1 (471942) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701398)

The only reason Wal-Mart is doing this is because they can save a few buck over Windows boxes.

Wal-Mart IS the Evil Empire and are destroying America one Super Center at a time.

The Wal-Mart company in the largest company in the world.

5 of the 10 richest people are Waltons.

They force the suppliers they have to produce products off shore to make them cheaper.

Don't shop at Wal-Mart of Sam's Club.

call be ignorant but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701399)

what exactly *is* Lindows? In everything I've read, I haven't been able to figure out what it is. Their site hardly gives a good explaination. Could someone give us the low-down?
Thanks in advance.

Rather than hoping (2)

Sawbones (176430) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701404)

Is there any kind of polling or feedback - especially any whos results are public - to see what customers think about this? I'm certain if there is both sides it will spin it to their hearts content, it would be interesting to take a look at the raw numbers (so many customer support calls per unit sold, so many returns) and how they compare with both bare systems and windows pre-installed systems.

It'll never happen of course, but it would be nice.

Them rednecks is gona be pissed. (2)

Kenja (541830) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701405)

Cousin Cletus is gona blow a gasket if Deer Hunter wont run on these things.

Not easy enough... (4, Insightful)

bilbobuggins (535860) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701409)

after I first read about Lindows here I downloaded the ISO and gave it shot.
To me, it didn't seem to be much more than KDE2 default with a pretty picture for the background. This is a problem. KDE default is NOT intuitive to Windows users.
I am currently helping a co-worker who is curious about Linux learn her way around on one of the spare machines here. Her first question (w/ RH 7.3 default) was that even after 10 minutes of poking at stuff she could not find the taskbar buried in with all that other stuff. That was just the beginning.

If you are going to cater to the Windows crowd you have to _really_ cater to them, not just change the icon theme.

BUT DOES IT PLAY DEER HUNTER?!?!?!?!?!???? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701413)

I ain't gettin' no cornputer that t'aint playing Deer Hunter.

Good for Walmart. (5, Interesting)

ekephart (256467) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701414)

Walmart is about the only US company I can think of that can actually take on MS. Walmart isn't really rooted in the technology industry so they don't stand to lose as much as say, Dell, from taking a stab at selling Lindows computers. I think most of us who know anything about MS know that the reason that Dell, HP, etc. etc... don't sell machines without Windows or even dual-boot machines with something other than two versions of Windows is because MS would revoke their license to sell Windows.

Screw the "legions of rednecks" idea, I believe there are many people who are curious enough about other OSes to get an extra computer, especially since they are supposed to be cheap, from Walmart just to poke around. Who knows once the average Joe realized that their are other options maybe he'll download some Debian images and never use Windows again.

Cheers to Walmart, good job guys.

heh.. (5, Insightful)

jglow (525234) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701425)

I think some of you are expressing concern because you don't want the mass public using anything but Windows. When everyone starts moving in on your elite OS, it no longer is the cool thing to use, so you must find something else to move on to....

Shells Rednecks compile (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701433)

Hey Y'all, Jeb just set up a beowolf cluster.

A better argument for "not for pirated Windows" (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701434)

As some are likely to argue. But this move clearly indicates that Walmart fears no one. It is almost an act of dominion that no supplier tells Walmart what to do.

*omg* is it even out of beta already? (4, Informative)

Idaho (12907) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701440)

Maybe I missed something...but last time I checked Lindows was still in beta stage, and with good reason too!

From my experience, they might be combining MS-like stability and security (running everything as root etc.) with Linux-like usability*, resulting in a horribly unusable OS - for which Linux will most probably get the blame by mainstream reporters. Ah well, we'll see.

Walmarts idea is probably something like this: they can save money on the computers this way, and they probably don't really care about what their customers use it for (do they have a reason to? Do they have to offer support etc.?), so that would explain things....

* usability for Joe Avg. User, e.g. consistent GUI's and stuff, you know what I mean...combining Wine and KDE and X will not get you a very consistent UI experience probably....

I hope they harden them. (5, Interesting)

Irvu (248207) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701444)

I can just imagine millions of these things selling widely. Then every single one being hacked by one group with the same root exploit. Think of the headlines "Wal-Mart facilitates domestic terrorism" "Internet Weakened by Linux manchines" etc. In some ways it's kind of what the ADTI [slashdot.org] people want.

The sum of all Lindows fears.

So Many Questions (2)

namespan (225296) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701445)

Will this Redneck Linux outsell Redhat Linux? Will people remember there are other distributions?

Will pictures of a penguin urinating replace those travesties of Bill Watterson's creations that are now ubiquitous?

If it crashes a lot, will anyone notice?

Could Put Lindows/Wal-Mart in a Sitcky Spot (5, Insightful)

goldspider (445116) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701446)

"To think of the legions of rednecks who could now possibly be running Lindows instead of Windows..."

It sounds funny, but just wait till they buy and try to install something made for Windows. Much to their surprise, it won't work, and they'll be calling up Wal-Mart asking them what kind of shinanigans they were trying to pull.

Now I haven't seen the packaging for these Lindows PCs, but I'd be willing to bet that some people COULD be confused into believing they're in fact buying a Windows PC. When they do discover their error, they'll think they were suckered into buying some kind of like a cheap knock-off (don't have the exact appropriate Simpsons quote).

If that happens, it's probably not the kind of PR that Lindows is looking for. Both Lindows and Wal-Mart have to be very careful to make sure the differences between Windows and Lindows are clearly explained.

GREAT, ALL WE NEED - MORE GAY REDNECKS. (-1)

Jon Katz on Tuesday (578508) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701451)

n/m

Linux doesn't win. (3, Insightful)

Telastyn (206146) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701453)

Selling people Linux machines with Wine isn't a win for Linux. You still have to shell out probably more cash for Office than for the machines themselves, and it's probably not going to work very well, turning even more people away from "things that are different".

Sure this might be a loss for Microsoft, but it's certainly not a win for Linux.

Re:Linux doesn't win. (2, Insightful)

mrfiddlehead (129279) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701543)

The average FCN doesn't need Office. Open office [openoffice.org] is MORE than enough. As soon as the Microsoft apologists get that through their thick bloody heads we will be able to move on and away from this nonsense about office.

About the only issue that I can see for the average home user is the problem with Microsoft's proprietary streaming media formats, and financial software. But if we can avoid using quicken or money with a usable version of gnucash then we're all going to be better off anyway.

Odd... (2)

Andy Dodd (701) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701459)

www.lindows.com doesn't mention Wal-Mart at all... In fact, they only mention preview releases.

If this were real, the people that make Lindows would have the news pasted all over their website.

I'm driving to Walmart today to see if I can check one of these 'puters out.

Windows Compatible (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701461)


The ad says:
This exciting new OS delivers the stability of UNIX

with the ease of Windows and the ability to run most
Microsoft programs
.
(Emphasis in bold not added) When you say this to the general public (which is pretty much the Wal-Mart crowd), you're saying that most programs will work exactly as they do under Windows, and not just run for a few *seconds* and crashing most of the time (like many do under Wine). Is theirs a reasonable claim? If not, it could make Linux look bad in general.

Walmart vendetta against Microsoft? (2, Interesting)

sterno (16320) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701462)

I keep wondering to myself why Walmart has become the champion of the Linux, or at least, not-Microsoft cause. I mean it would probably be easier for them to just sell windows PC's like everybody else does. I'm wondering if maybe Microsoft did something to piss them off and this is their retaliation.

OS X (3, Insightful)

!splut (512711) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701464)

Looks like windows, kinda feels like windows, stable, UNIX based, runs most of the big important Windows programs...

We're talking Mac's with OS X, right?

wow, this is big news (1)

Karma Star (549944) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701466)

linux, preinstalled on computers sold by a major retail chain. could this mark the entry of linux into the home consumer market?

i think this is a milestone for linux...

Re:wow, this is big news (1)

Zelet (515452) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701548)

Could be... but Linux isn't a good home-pc OS. Never has been.

Remember the right tool for the right job.

Strange Move... (1)

TheKubrix (585297) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701468)

Next walmart will start selling bare bone systems,....then eventually evolve into ,shudder, Fry's!

Must be great to be a WINE developer.... (1, Insightful)

duffbeer703 (177751) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701472)

After spending months and years working for free to create a windows environment in Linux... some scumbags are using your donated time and energy to hoodwink ignorant customers into buying cheap pcs.

It's kind of sad, really.

Re:Must be great to be a WINE developer.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701534)

So what's your ultimate goal then? Obscurity? Nice one. Maybe you can get a paying job with Lindows.

You know for all the whining you all do... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3701477)

about the uptake of Linux to the desktop you wouldn't think there would be so much negativity about this. Walmart is a huge retailer who is willing to preinstall a version of Linux that is actually usable to most people and still you complain. I hope this gets modded up because this negativity is quite disturbing. What a great way to get application/game devs to port their stuff. Do you people know how many people actually shop at Walmart. And suffice to say they are not all rednecks.

True price savings... (2)

danamania (540950) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701480)

Not being from the US where this is all happening, the prices are just numbers that don't mean too much - compared to similar systems, do walmart look to be passing on the savings over providing windows?.

Looks a good idea so far, on two fronts - giving people an alternative to windows, and letting anyone who's a little more cluey to run an alternative system without having wasted cash on an OS they're not going to use. Thats the theory, nice if the practice holds up with lower prices.

a grrl & her server [danamania.com]

Impression? (5, Informative)

Mr_Silver (213637) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701481)

Hopefully Lindows makes a good impression.

Of course it will. They'll think it's fantastic, right up to the point when they try to install their favourite Windows applications and it all goes horribly wrong.

Then they'll mutter "crock of shit" and take it back to Walmart to complain.

Not that I blame them, Walmart is advertising it as having the ability to run most Microsoft software, which (unless it's changed drastically) isn't quite the case.

I'm all for getting Linux to the masses, but if they oversell what it can do, then they'll end up putting off people rather than attracting them.

Wait a minute (2)

quantaman (517394) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701484)

From lindows.com
*Note: Even though Insiders will also get the final version of LindowsOS when it's released later this year, the Insiders program is designed for those looking to get involved with our mission early on and take a look at the LindowsOS Sneak Previews as they are released and sharing their feedback with us. If you are only interested in looking at LindowsOS when it is finished and "useable", you should probably wait for the final release.

Okay, so it's not finished but you can order a Wal-Mart PC with it pre-installed now?!? I'd hate to think that thousands of red necks are going to become beta testers for a new linux distro!! And if it is somehow actually shipping (web sight horribly out of date) where is the source?? I'm not entirely clear on how the GPL works on this "preview" version they've been tossing around but if it is being distributed pre-installed on PCs I'm pretty sure that they have to release the source.

Here's a comment I posted Earlier ... (2)

dunstan (97493) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701485)


http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=31934&cid=34 42 511

It is exciting to see this happening, but the acid test is whether they are still selling these machines in this config in three months' time. If they *are*, then we may have a major breakthrough on our hands.

Dunstan

The afterlife (1)

Odinson (4523) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701488)

Somewhere in dotcom heaven, Loki is smiling right now.

Where I live (2, Interesting)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701502)

In Gloucester, VA, they just built the largest Super Walmart and distribution centre in the world or some crap like that. So there are probably going to be a lot of bubbas to lazy to drive over to Newport News to go to CompUSA and will buy these things. I don't know why. J-Random Bubba Junior is going to be more hurt than helped by this. We complain about freedom or technical issues. They complain about not being able to play Solitare, read their email, and play the latest copy of some game. They don't need to be running UNIX to do those things. Chances are this will just present them with more options they don't understand. Windows is confusing enough for most people around here, why do they now need to be confused and only able to run "most" microsoft applications? Also, how does it help us to have a flood of people who arn't going to contribute anything back except bitch at us and demand help in chat rooms without saything "thank you" at the end as if we exist soley to be their god damned tech support line?

Do not buy con Wal-Mart (0, Flamebait)

gasull (92697) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701506)

Wal-Mart is one of the worst companies [walmartwatch.com] ever. Do not buy anything there.

Special Offer from Walmart???? (1)

wilsonjo (181905) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701521)

At the end of each of the PC descriptions it says:
Special Offer -- Select up to 3 free software applications from the Lindows.com Warehouse of software applications

I personally do not like the wording of that. Isn't Lindows a software repository of packages, or are they charging after the first 3 downloads?

Uugh (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701522)

Wal-Mart shoppers are already used to buying things like kola, chokolat, jeens, meet and asspren. I'm sure Lindows will fit right in with all the other misleading named products there. So I don't think this turn of events will do much to help the Lindows/Windows trademark suite.

you can bet (0)

OklaKid (552472) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701523)

this will put M$FT's pantys in a bunch...

re: Rednecks (0, Offtopic)

mike77 (519751) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701524)

legions of rednecks...

Ya know, it really disturbs me that this kind of blatant stereotyping is going in a "enlightened group discussion" on /.. I myself shop at Wal-mart and have been on occasion referred to as a redneck. Yes, I'm from the south, yes, I consider myself a "good ole boy". But ya know what, I work on computers all day long, use only Linux/Unix systems and I'm damn good at it. why don't we just start insulting other groups of people in our posts, like say yankees, foreigners, black, hispanics.... no? Then lets try and avoid insulting a group of people who you think you're better than.

Not necessarily a good thing (2)

Gedvondur (40666) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701526)

If I remember my ancient history properly, Commodore thought a good way to get to the masses was to sell product through K-Mart.

All that got them was the same reputation that Kame-Apart's crappy TVs had.

It made them a non-business option for whole legions of companies when they were still considered a viable option for businesses.

Are you going to install Lindows based PCs in your Fortune 500 enterprise when Wal-Mart sells them? Probably not.

Wally-Mart could very well be a kiss of death for Lindows as a viable OS for any kind of professional.

When you stain your product with "low class" like that, it's very hard to remove.

A risky choice, all around, IMHO.

UNIX-based? (1)

unsinged int (561600) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701533)

From the Walmart ad:

These computers do not ship with Microsoft Windows. They ship with an exciting new UNIX based Operating System (OS) named Lindows. This exciting new OS delivers the stability of UNIX...

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say Linux-based since from a user's viewpoint it looks like Windows but runs Windows and Linux programs? And technically didn't they build this off Linux and not BSD? I'm just wondering if Walmart made a simple mistake or if they're intentionally wanting to associate it with UNIX instead of Linux for some reason.

Shades of the past! (1)

SampleMinded (580479) | more than 12 years ago | (#3701549)

Lindows and Wine being almost ready for primetime. Open-office being almost compatible with M$ Office. It all reminds me of the late 80's when IBM clones were almost 100% compatable. Its makes me very hopeful.
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