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Windows Media Player in Linux

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the options-if-you-want-em dept.

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mr lee writes "Today CodeWeavers released CrossOver plugin 1.1 which now supports Windows Media Player 6.4 under Linux. As much I would not like to see or support sites that use Windows Media shite, its still really nice to have this option. Not too mention kick ass QuickTime playing." Update: 02/27 18:30 GMT by H : I've actually been using this - it's done really really well. I'm planning on doing a fuller review soon, but it's very well done.

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340 comments

No native version? (3, Interesting)

Ed Avis (5917) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078674)

IIRC Windows Media Player was the one program where Microsoft released a native Linux version. It didn't last long though.

Native Sewage (-1)

DonkeyHote (521235) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078724)

f0rk the natives, kill the engines!

Re:Native Sewage (-1)

real_b0fh (557599) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078803)

mplayer CAN already play mms:// streams (at least most of them) witout wine - and it is damn fast.

www.mplayerhq.hu

and since I may get modded up on this, FUCK YOU ALL, FAGS!!!

Re:No native version? (4, Informative)

HMC CS Major (540987) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078725)

It's modded (+3, funny) as I type, but it really is true ...

See http://www.vnunet.com/News/105831 [vnunet.com] and http://content.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19981009S 0021 [techweb.com] for details.

Re:No native version? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078783)

Did either the Linux versions or does this crossover patch allow for the spoofed mp3 vulnerability? [securityfocus.com]

Re:No native version? (2)

BlowCat (216402) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078888)

I tried the Linux version back in 1998. It didn't support MP3 at all.

The crossover plugin should probably emulate all bugs of the software it runs :-)

Re:No native version? (1)

nexex (256614) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078738)

there is a solaris version...but its pretty buggy :)

Re:No native version? (1)

MaxVlast (103795) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078843)

I trust that any problems are due to "instability in the underlying operating system software" or some such. Just check the Microsoft documentation!

Re:No native version? (4, Informative)

Mike Hicks (244) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078745)

Yeah, back when it was known as the NetShow player (this was back in 1997 or 1998). It was released shortly after Microsoft acquired another company that had made a cross-platform player. MS had said that they would release another version, but it never happened.

I used it a few times, mostly to play the .asf video of Win98 crashing for Bill Gates at a computer conference..

Re:No native version? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078864)

"I used it a few times, mostly to play the .asf video of Win98 crashing"

Then you were probably the only person for which that thing didn't immediately dump core.

Windows Media Player for Linux (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078829)

What's better:

(A) A Windows Media Player for Linux project

or

(B) Sex with a mare

First Prost! (-1)

LunchLady (555057) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078678)

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Re:First Prost! (-1)

YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078702)

Cool!

But, what is it? Or is it some abstract shit that I probably won't understand?

Re:First Prost! (-1)

LunchLady (555057) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078740)

If you stand far enough back with a little imagination - you will see the Goatse Giver!
As that is the original picture. Crude and Dirty - but requested on the previous story.

Re:First Prost! (-1, Offtopic)

October_30th (531777) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078773)

Perhaps it's one of those pictures that are basically random but in which you can still see all kinds of shapes.

After looking at it for a while I think I can see a pterodactyl.

I don't believe this.!! (-1, Offtopic)

Pi3.142 (538027) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078680)

I don't believe this.!

Is this good? (2, Insightful)

Publicus (415536) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078682)

It probably won't make any difference, but doesn't this, in a way, legitimize the wma format?

Re:Is this good? (2)

MrFredBloggs (529276) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078694)

Its probably all Linux needs to make it susceptable to a SSSCA legal attack!

Re:Is this good? (1)

grytpype (53367) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078769)

Slashtard bingo!

News Flash (2)

Doktor Memory (237313) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078748)

The use or non-use of WMA/WMV by less than one percent of the web-browsing market has exactly zero bearing on the "legitimacy" of the format. Please see a doctor about these delusions of grandeur.

More like legitimize Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078847)

I'd say it probably does more to legitimize Linux as a viable platform for average consumers. Best of both worlds: You get to run your favorite OS, but still view the content you'd like. Of course, this assumes a more practical attitude toward computing choices, which is occasionally lost on here...

The results of smoking crack (1, Insightful)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078688)

Windows media player "shite"? "Kick ass" Quicktime?

I don't know about this guy's universe, but in mine, Windows Media Player works great, but Quicktime under windows is a giant, stinking, smelly, steaming, smoking, pile of dog-doo. It constantly crashes, and the user interface is probably the worst ever designed.

Re:The results of smoking crack (-1)

I.T.R.A.R.K. (533627) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078719)

These days, blatant anti-Microsoft remarks are the only way to secure your place on the frontpage.
What, did you think that story was posted based on it's own merits? Heh.

Re:The results of smoking crack (1)

dnoyeb (547705) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078732)

Your world is off its axis. Quicktime creates much nicer videos with nicer quality in less time in my experience than WMP. Quicktime lets you scrub the video and actually see what your scrubbing whereas WMP does not allow this.

QT does not crash on my computer. Of course I expect WMP not to crash...

Re:The results of smoking crack (2, Interesting)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078763)

Apparently you're talking about the encoder. I'm talking about the player.

Quicktime is the pits (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078824)

I recently installed Quicktime on my PC. I followed the directions and told it NOT to splatter itself anywhere.

Despite this, any time I go to a web page with sound, I have to wait forever for the QuickTime drivers to load, and then I get a message asking me to upgrade Quicktime.... with no option to get rid of the message.

The installation and user interface have a sort of rudimentary unfriendliness to them that the rest of the world left behind when it ditched Windows 3.11 for Workgroups.

Re:The results of smoking crack (0, Troll)

mselby (238376) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078743)

I quite agree.

CmdrTaco is leaving more and more objectivity behind.

It's really pathetic, like watching someone get further and further into a cult until you just ignore their opinion on any old "shite" completely.

Re:The results of smoking crack (1)

dark_panda (177006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078846)

To be fair, taco didn't say that stuff, it was the person who submitted the article, "mr lee". Don't shoot the messanger.

J

Re:The results of smoking crack (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078887)

Rob (aka CmdrTaco) ,

Your bad spelling (ie: Messanger) is obvious, regardless of what name you use. Please stop pretending to be normal users, and just admit that you should have found a more reasonable way to "inform" us of this "development".

Thanks,
- Anomymous Coward.

Re:The results of smoking crack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078755)

I don't know about this guy's universe
but in mine,... under windows...
It constantly crashes...probably the worst ever designed.

Enough Said....

I wonder why? (2, Insightful)

Meech (166762) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078764)

Companies are like little greedy children, they don't play nice together. Apple has quicktime, Microsoft has windows media player. Quicktime, as you say, runs like garbage under windows, and from my experience, windows media player runs like crap on the Mac platforms. The only thing that works on all are "standard" file types such as mpg, mp3, etc.

Re:The results of smoking crack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078774)

Be very very careful saying that. I said exactly the same thing about QT player not more than a week ago, got modded down as Flamebait & Troll. Then I got set upon by the QT zealot faction who flamed me right down to my asbestos socks. I will repeat this again for anyone who cares to listen - QT as a format may be lovely, QT the player (in windows anyway) is horrific. The interface is terrible, it's slow, generally I wish I didn't have to use it :(

Posting as AC for obvious reasons!

Re:The results of smoking crack (2)

Bilestoad (60385) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078775)

Most people wait until it's time to post a comment until they trot out the usual anti-Microsoft karma whoring. Congratulations "mr lee", for lowering Slashdot pandering to a new level.

Windows Media Player does work just fine. Quicktime is the app that will attempt to take over associations and bug you with "upgrade now?" reminders every time you run it.

Re:The results of smoking crack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078786)

Let me guess, you don't run a Macintosh. Of course it doesn't run as good on Windows -- Apple had to port much code to even get it to work. The fact of the matter is that it is YOU that is smoking crack because QuickTime is a more complete solution that provides the most flexibility for content creators. The interface for the player, while you may have some shred of a point, is moot due to the quantities of lame UI examples coming from the Windows UI community. At least Apple thinks about UI. The only people that are worse are the *nix camp (although there are some people even there that have multiple clues).

Re:The results of smoking crack (0, Troll)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078831)

The fact of the matter is that it is YOU that is smoking crack because QuickTime is a more complete solution that provides the most flexibility for content creators.

And who cares how good the content creation software is if no one can view the bloody video? And no, people with Macintoshes don't count.

Re:The results of smoking crack (1)

RMSIsAnIdiot (556315) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078849)

Too bad Windows Media Player on Mac runs just as good as it does on Windows...

Reading For Comprehension 101. (3, Informative)

Doktor Memory (237313) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078834)

[...] but Quicktime under windows is [...]

That's all well and good, but Mr. Lee wasn't talking about Quicktime under Windows. He said, and I quote:
As much I would not like to see or support sites that use Windows Media shite, its still really nice to have this option. Not too mention kick ass QuickTime playing."
He is clearly referring to using the Crossover Plugin to play Quicktime under Linux, which it indeed does a "kick-ass" job of doing.

You might want to have that jerking knee attended to by a physician.

Re:Reading For Comprehension 101. (1)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078875)

You might want to have that jerking knee attended to by a physician.

And you might want to have that selective vision checked out by a optometrist. He is talking about the products in general, not specifically to Linux. Read it again.

Macolyte Moderators -- gotta love 'em (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078897)

I knew that anyone daring to post this sort of truth would get immediately moderated into oblivion by the Macolytes... heh.

Re:The results of smoking crack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078925)

QuickTime on Windows actually installs more smoothly on a PC than on a Mac (no restart).

I have also found QT playback on a half dozen VERY different PC's I've done very aggressive testing with to be roughly on par with comparably speedy Macs.

Windows Media (aside from a litany of REALLY bad UI problems and extremely limited export/import support in MS's encoding tools) has reasonably nice low bitrate video and audio quality.

This, and fast encode performance are the *ONLY* redeeming qualities of WiMP.

Windows Media as a media architecture is vastly inferior to both QuickTime and Real (No Flash, no real VR, limited intra-media interactivity, no support for third party components, limited file format support, no movie to movie communcation, etc. etc.

Windows Media is also (as noted earlier) a privacy problem.

Unless we want to see online streaming media go the way of the Netscape, essentially killed by MS, we owe it to ourselves to favor consuming and delivering in as many competing alternatives as possible including closed systems like QT and Real.

Karma Whoring (0, Offtopic)

RoboTroll (560160) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078691)

Look around you, folks. How many of you have sigs that refer to "karma", "ACs," getting "modded up" and the like? Has Slashdot become your hermetically sealed environment? Is it the filter through which you perceive reality? Has Slashdot become an empty game where you regurgitate earlier posts to get 'karma'?

Some of you might be surprised to learn that this "karma" has no value whatsoever!!! When Slashdot goes under (and don't worry, it will) you won't be able to exchange that "karma" for Denny's coupons, anime DVDs, or anything worth a shit!!!

And don't think there's any spiritual value either! Slashdot "karma" won't help you break the cycle of reincarnation, it won't get you "high", and it won't even win you friends at Magic: The Gathering tournaments!

Fellow Slashdotter, you have been deceived!!! You will not achieve immortality by posting "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this!" or "Linux is really good for the desktop!" The only way you'll ever be remembered when this decrepit weblog tumbles into nothingness is to post something really FUCKED UP!!! I can't stress this enough!!!

Don't waste your time chasing the "karma" cap! Don't whine about your stories not being published when you know that the news on this site is randomly chosen by monkeys!!!The only way you'll be remembered long after CmdrTaco returns to his old position as shift leader at Pizza Hut is by posting ABSOLUTE FREAKING MADNESS!!! Do it now!!! Do it often!!! And karma be damned!!!
Have you ever seen the back of a twenty-dollar bill...ON WEED?

From the annals of the Troll Library [slashdot.org] .

More on this story: (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078696)

Link [jpsweb.net]

All the swearing in stories (0, Flamebait)

Steveftoth (78419) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078700)

Was mr lee the only one who submitted this story? Or was his the one with the most profanity in the story? I expect to see profane comments, not stories. /. allows passive agressive statements twords companies that are opposed to linux, but can you please keep the swearing out of the stories?

Re:All the swearing in stories (-1)

YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078761)

No need to ask yourself if the message board in enriched by your bellyaching. Just type away (don't bother to spell check!) and hit submit! Naughty words go away!

Re:All the swearing in stories (-1, Flamebait)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078820)

"I expect to see profane comments"

Fuck you, assmunch. Choke on your mom's cock.

and knock off that <tt> shite.

Re:All the swearing in stories (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078927)

Shut the fuck up, you cum guzzling whiney little bitch.

This cant hurt (1)

Ween (13381) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078704)

I for one like this. Now I can listen to webcasts that are in windows media only format. Since websites wont give me a choice, Im glad someone has given me the software to make up for it.

Codecs (2, Funny)

brad3378 (155304) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078705)

I want to see if somebody can get this to download the latest codecs from Microsoft servers

Re:Codecs (1)

Mordain (204988) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078852)

If i remember correctly that may be hard to do. Media player these days has a unique ID built in that MS and maybe others use to track what you listen/watch. While you can disable this Id from being sent to the websites you download from, it is entirely possible that a unique ID is required to connect to MS for codecs.

This is just conjecture of course.

uhh (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078707)

As much I would not like to see or support sites that use Windows Media shite, its still really nice to have this option.

Is that me or are the two clauses in that section contradictory? You don't want to support, or even see sites that use windows media player, but you still think it's "really nice" to have it...

Alan Thicke. DEAD (-1, Troll)

Alan_Thicke (553655) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078709)

I just heard the sad news on CBC radio. Comedy actor/writer Alan Thicke was found dead in his home this morning. Even if you never liked his work, you can appreciate what he did for 80's television. Truly a Canadian icon. [slashdot.org]
He will be missed :(



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Show me that smile again.
Ooh show me that smile.
Don't waste another minute on your crying.
We're nowhere near the end.
We're nowhere near.
The best is ready to begin.

As long as we got each other
We got the world
Sitting right in our hands.
Baby rain or shine;
All the time.
We got each other
Sharing the laughter and love.

Way to go (1, Troll)

Sinjun (176671) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078712)

As much I would not like to see or support sites that use Windows Media shite

Way to go there buddy. Kick them for using the most widely supported media format out there. How dare they ensure that the largest number of people can view their stuff!?

what about Mplayer (4, Informative)

steve.m (80410) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078713)

which supports Win32 Codecs including Quicktime MOV, etc. see Here [mplayerhq.hu] .

Re:what about Mplayer (3, Interesting)

HeUnique (187) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078807)

1. It still doesn't fully supports ASX files (yes, even with the latest CVS - I tried one from yesterday).

2. It doesn't provide you with any embedding to your browser. Go ahead and hack it to make mplayer GUI appear inside Mozilla/Konqueror on most of the sites (now.com, yahoo.com, news.com) - good luck!

Re:what about Mplayer (-1)

real_b0fh (557599) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078886)

you fucking dumbass... ASX files are only http files with links to ASF streams. just open them and go directly to the stream...

about embedding in browsers... you are a fag, arent ya?

luser.

Re:what about Mplayer (-1)

real_b0fh (557599) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078904)

did I say http? I need my crack... read TEXT file (maybe its xml, but who cares)

Mplayer is great! (2, Insightful)

7-Vodka (195504) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078819)

Mplayer is awesome, I view divx movies with it. There's even a spanking new pretty gui. It's the only movie player for nix that actually works well. There's also aviplay, while it's worth a mention, the code is messy and it doesn't work as well.

Re:what about Mplayer (4, Informative)

kraf (450958) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078845)

From the mplayerhq.hu website:
(http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/formats.ht ml#2.1.1.4 )

"Codecs: any codecs allowed, both CBR and VBR. Note: most new mov files use Sorenson video and QDesign Music audio. These formats are completely secret, and only Apple's quicktime player is able to play these files (on win/mac only)."

So it basically doesn't support MOV except some old stuff.

Re:what about Mplayer (-1)

real_b0fh (557599) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078928)

and that's a good reason to spank people who encode in this new quicktime format. fuck apple.

Noooo.. (1)

theeds (300421) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078714)

Ahh run away Windows invades the gaming consoles now it invades linux, run run run. Now linux will have unexpected crashes with out kernal recompiles w00t.

Speaking of players -- real.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078720)

Any way of getting whatever real player there is without having to register an email address? My favorite email address to register under, "abuse@aol.com", is already taken.

Hate to load that flakey, crashes-constantly piece of crap RealPlayer, but the BBC hasn't discovered Quicktime or MPEG.

Re:Speaking of players -- real.com (0)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078891)

try root@real.com.

Their sysadmin must love it. Also, since foo.com is a squatter page, there's no harm in bar@foo.com.

Nice (1)

jtdennis (77869) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078727)

Windows Media Player 6.4 is more than just for playing the WM* formats. It's the only player I use for everything but RealMedia and Quicktime under Windows. Any WiMP after 6.4 is trash though IMHO.

Re:Nice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078795)


Spot on my friend. Now if only Real & Apple would get off their collective asses and allow others to license their codecs so we could bin their crappy players.

Re:Nice (1)

boxcarjoe (560497) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078903)

i find zoomplayer a much better player than winmp
it playes movies and music without all the gay shit that win mp has buy i still use winamp for music, zoomplayer works great for video, its un bloated and you can get plugins

How long before... (1)

shaldannon (752) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078729)

Microsoft goes and changes the format and breaks the plugin? Oh...and does the plugin let WMP do it's little data collection tricks?

Re:How long before... (1)

a3d0a3m (306585) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078924)

Just for your information...
Windows Media Player doesn't do any "data collection tricks," the slashdot story about that was FUD. All WMP does is download cddb info for cds and DVD info from another db and keep a file on your computer with a record [ie cache] of all of the CD/DVDs you have previously inserted. While both databases use a unique identifier, it has been pointed out by me in this comment [slashdot.org] that CDDB has a privacy policy that precludes them from releasing data about your listening habits. WMP is a harmless piece of useful software, and personally, I am happy to see it on the Linux platform.

Adam

Too late (4, Informative)

jandrese (485) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078730)

Mplayer [mplayerhq.hu] already does pretty much everything Windows Media Player can do, and it's native to Linux. The Quicktime support mentioned in the writeup is a red herring, Windows Media Player (IIRC) still does not support Sorenson Quicktimes, making it no better than xanim at playing modern .mov files.

Re:Too late (-1)

real_b0fh (557599) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078856)

native is a bit too much... it has a bunch of hacked M$ dll's on it and use a naughty trick to load them. But I must agree it kicks ass - decodes almost everything and outputs on every fucking device - xvideo, raw X11, SDL video and audio, oss, alsa... simply rocks. those guys kick arse.

Re:Too late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078907)

The QuickTime support mentioned in the story referred to the fact that CrossOver will let you run Apple's QuickTime 5 Player. You can even use the QuickTime plugin in your browser, be it Netscape, Mozilla, Konqueror, Galeon, SkipStone or Opera.
And because this is the original Apple QuickTime player, it does support Sorenson movies.

Btw, the CrossOver home page is there:
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover/ [codeweavers.com]
and CrossOver supports many other plugins (Shockwave, Word/Excel/PowerPoint viewers, Trillian, etc.):
http://www.codeweavers.com/support/crossover/suppo rted_plugins.php [codeweavers.com]

to be expected... (2, Funny)

DickPhallus (472621) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078733)

This is typical:

Ooo... DRM is bad! Die DRM

Hey! I can use windows media under linux now. yay!

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Re:to be expected... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078915)

Nice name.

-Phallus McSwinglo

Hey (4, Interesting)

Starship Trooper (523907) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078739)

Not to scare you guys (no web site, just a mailing list?), but - did any of you ask Microsoft about this before you wrote it?

I'm not implying that you did anything wrong, but in today's insane world, the DMCA can pretty much be wielded like a baseball bat. People like CNN who use WMP to distribute their advertisements before their content in a streaming manner expect their ads to be preserved. If you've added an extra functionality in here, or any method whatsoever to bypass ads, save streaming video, or otherwise do anything but sit in your chair and watch what they send you, you might get hit by the eager-beaver Microsoft Legal Team. In fact, just making this functionality user modifiable (i.e., open source) might be enough for you to become a "circumvention device".

Care to comment?

Re:Hey (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078785)

>>Care to comment?

read what this plugin ACTUALLY does and get a clue before posting.

It's not a player that reads windows media files..... it lets you RUN WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER on linux. Therefore it is exactly the same player.

mod this crap down.

Re:Hey (1)

Starship Trooper (523907) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078872)

read what this plugin ACTUALLY does and get a clue before posting

Just because they didn't reverse engineer the plugins doesn't mean that by bridging them they can't grant extra functionality. Remember, under the DMCA, the extent of circumvention is loosely defined. If you write a wrapper that allows a user to capture or slow the output of streaming video, you're circumventing.

Sorry that you were confused.

Curious (1)

ciole (211179) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078808)

In fact, just making this functionality user modifiable (i.e., open source) might be enough for you to become a "circumvention device".
This seems to me to be a necessary conclusion of our current DMCA, DRM-OS, etc, fiasco. But IANAL.
Would any with legal knowledge care to comment? Any chance this general theme could be litigated?

Re:Hey (1)

RMSIsAnIdiot (556315) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078906)

Care to comment?

Yeah, you're an idiot.

Ads more than likely come in a playlist, where they are displayed as a clip before the actual media.

Ads pay for them to actually stream media for you. If everyone was like smelly GNU hippies are and tried to subvert the content provider by disabling their ads, the content being provided would cease to exist, because there's no one to pay for their bandwidth.

Welcome to Capitalism, moron.

great! (now i want to (get rid of) my real1 playr) (1)

rmstar (114746) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078741)

Hey I think it's great. Media files should not be tied to an operating system.

Now we need something that is able to play realmedia stuff.

rmstar

Re:great! (now i want to (get rid of) my real1 pla (0)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078863)

It's the same scene on OS X. Real isn't shipping a player, and even if they were I wouldn't use it. I don't like the microsoft formats any more than most /. readers seem to, but real has got to be the worst. It's feels like a used car lot. Everywhere you look, someone is trying to sell you something. I don't have OS 9 on my systems, so I haven't seen Real(tm) content in about a year. That format needs to die already.

finally linux gets something useful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078749)

hopefully we will see office for linux soon; with Tux as the office assistant.

Re:finally linux gets something useful (-1)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078937)

"Hi, I see you're HUPing named. Would you like assistance with this?"

What would you like to do?

HUP named for me

buy "HUP named" products at store.microsoft.com

search for more help

man, that would be fantastic.

Distros with "premium" editions ought include! (1)

timothy (36799) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078756)

One reason I like having a Macintosh around is to watch things in Quicktime format. Sounds like this will (completely?) eliminate that desire.

However, people for the most part never upgrade their hardware *or* software, either because they're scared to (righteously, since a lot of software installation is badly designed and dangerous to one's data and sanity), lazy (an enduring and important human trait), or not allowed (many workplaces).

I bet most computers in the Windows world get new software only when Outlook lets in a virus, and most Linux boxes get new software only when a new distribution / version is installed. Perhaps Mandrake could sell another "Premium" install? Or Red Hat?

timothy

As opposed to... (-1, Flamebait)

Joe U (443617) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078759)

"As much I would not like to see or support sites that use Windows Media shite"

As opposed to the usual Linux shite, or the usual RealPlayer shite?

I thought there were editors here, apparently there aren't any. Welcome to the 'Weekly World News' version of Slashdot.

Editors: The write-up here is pathetic, you should be ashamed to let something like this thru in that form.

If I want to see a "HOLY FUCKING SHIT" headline, I go to The Onion.

oh no (-1)

IAgreeWithThisPost (550896) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078770)

I dont want to see sites using MS codecs, but I dont mind being able to listen to them!

more hypocritical linux bullshit.

accept my hot grits

! (first post) (-1)

GoatTroll (556420) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078778)

This is not the first post. Move along. There's nothing to see here.

thank god (0, Offtopic)

clinko (232501) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078779)

Linux's main setback is the lack of multimedia and using Netscape.

I love the fact that people brag about linux's reliability, when Netscape would crash every 10 minutes. I want overall reliability.

I wonder.. (1)

glh (14273) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078781)

Does the linux plug in have that flying windows logo pop up? :) Or is it a flying penguin maybe?

Make up your mind please (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078791)

"As much I would not like to see or support sites that use Windows Media shite, its still really nice to have this option"

Few comments on crossover 1.1.0 (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078792)

Ok, you might want to read this:

The crossover plugin will let you play Windows media player files, but emedding inside the browser is very problematic. Why? simple - The Windows Media player when works with Netscape - uses Netscape's Java (1.1.x) to communicate with the player and to embedd the window.

What does this means to you? it means that you can watch WMP embedded in your browser - if you're using the old Netscape - Version 4.x - not Konqureror, not Mozilla (any build).

It's not CodeWeaver's fault - it's the way MS did it - the exact thing will happend on Windows. The guys from CodeWeavers will look into it and probably try to hack something..

Other features that are not mentioned - you can now use Trillian, Real Player 8 (the much better Windows version, not the crappy Linux version), you can install fonts directly from MS web site, and the speed seems to be imrpvoed.

Lots of other plugins has been added to the crossover, and IMHO it's worth the $19.95 price (there is a free upgrade to previous owners), and of course - all the hacks that was done to wine - are rolling back to the main tree - so your money helps open source...

I'm sure that people here will write that "don't buy it since it support non standard audio/video format" - to them I'm saying that when 90% of the people have those players - webmasters won't give a crap about others...

Cheers,
Mesh Mesh

Re:Few comments on crossover 1.1.0 (1)

lessthan0 (176618) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078880)

"I'm sure that people here will write that "don't buy it since it support non standard audio/video format" - to them I'm saying that when 90% of the people have those players - webmasters won't give a crap about others..."

And to you I say if you continue to support that crappy proprietary format, webmasters will continue not to give a crap. Sorry, if the web site won't post stuff in standard formats, I don't care to view it.

CrossOver is worth every penny (5, Interesting)

tempest303 (259600) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078797)

I bought CrossOver back in November, and I LOVE it. As a previous poster talked about, I don't enjoy "legitimizing" uber-proprietary formats like Sorensen Quicktime or Windows Media, but sometimes one has no choice. This is where CrossOver comes in, and it does its job admirably. The install and setup are simple, and best of all, it JUST WORKS, just as all payware ought to. If all commercial/payware software was as well made and as well supported as Crossover, Free software wouldn't have nearly the appeal that it does right now, IMHO...

Anyway, if you're running Linux and you've ever missed not being able to watch movie trailers, certain pr0n stuff, etc, don't suffer any longer! Plunk down the $20, it's worth it! You get great software AND you're supporting the single largest (to my knowledge) contributor to the WINE project. (Not to mention helping put some food on the table for some great geeks - I live near St Paul so I got a free tour of their office; they're cool people. :)

Re:CrossOver is worth every penny (3, Funny)

unformed (225214) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078912)

Anyway, if you're running Linux and you've ever missed not being able to watch movie trailers, certain pr0n stuff, etc, don't suffer any longer! Plunk down the $20, it's worth it!

Why do that when I shift over about 4 feet to my rommates puter. That way not only do I save 20 bucks, but I make his keyboard sticky isntead of mine.

;)

Re:CrossOver is worth every penny (1)

RMSIsAnIdiot (556315) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078929)

>>
If all commercial/payware software was as well made and as well supported as Crossover, Free software wouldn't have nearly the appeal that it does right now, IMHO...

'Free' software only really appeals to those people that refuse to pay for software outright... and would end up pirating pay software anyway.

This is the next logical step... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078813)

...in Linux.net initiative.

Commrad taco decree (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3078839)

No site shall stream in a format available by default on millions of platfoms.

Makes perfect business sense .. really

Not to throw a wet towl on this but... (2)

ViceClown (39698) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078859)

Most sites require media player 7 these days.

shite? (0)

RedAlgaron (537340) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078861)

viewing media in windows is great, there is no shite involved.

I don't know if this is as newsworthy as... (2)

DA_MAN_DA_MYTH (182037) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078873)

The fact I just saw an ad for Visual Studio .NET on Slashdot.

Don't support Windows Media. (5, Interesting)

IGnatius T Foobar (4328) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078931)

While it's great that Codeweavers has managed to get enough of WINE working to support Windows Media Player, it's still a very bad idea for us to use it. Here's why.

Every time you click on a Windows Media file, you are sending a message to the site operator which basically says "I support Microsoft's efforts to monopolize digital media." You're voting with your mouse.

Right now, in most places we still have a choice of formats: Windows Media, Real, streaming MP3, whatever. If everyone just mindlessly chooses the Windows Media formats without a second thought, site operators are going to look at their logs and say "well, nobody is using the Real/MP3/whatever formats, so let's just start webcasting exclusively in Windows Media format." Do you want that to happen? I sure don't. We cannot afford to let Microsoft monopolize this market. Think of the ramifications of Microsoft having a 100 percent lock on digital content. Digital Rights Management? Easy... just put it in Windows Media. Region lockouts? Put it in Windows Media. Want to work around those problems? Sorry, you can't, because digital media is Windows Media and you don't have any other choice!

Let's not forget that even though Windows Media Player may now run on Linux, you'll never see a Linux distribution that includes it, because the Crossover Plugin is not free, and Microsoft's licenses prevent WMP from appearing on Linux CD's.

Great technology, bad way to use it. As Linux users we must keep on clicking on those non-Microsoft formats, and politely asking site operators to maintain or add media in non-Microsoft formats. Let's not succumb to the urge to satisfy short-term viewing/listening needs at the expense of sacrificing long-term interoperability.

FreeBSD? (2, Interesting)

nvrrobx (71970) | more than 12 years ago | (#3078932)

I'm an avid FreeBSD user, so I'm curious as to if this works in FreeBSD. Does CodeWeavers have a FreeBSD port, or does this work under Linux emulation? If it does, I'll be purchasing it ASAP!
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