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Linux Firmware For Some 802.11b Access Points

timothy posted about 13 years ago | from the now-that-is-a-busybox dept.

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drwho writes "This just unveiled at the BAWUG meeting tonight: Linux firmware for Access Points. Check this URL for more info. I haven't tried it yet but it looks great!" The upshot is that certain Access Points can be flashed with a stripped-down Linux system, which makes them more flexible than they'd be under the included firmware. There are even some screenshots of a modded access point booting up.

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The Fine Print: (-1, Troll)

Pi3.142 (538027) | about 13 years ago | (#2862095)

The following comments are owned. * Important Stuff: Please try to keep posts on topic.

Judaism (-1)

Ralph JewHater Nader (450769) | about 13 years ago | (#2862102)

Zionism is the scourge of the Earth. First anti-semitic post.

Brilliant! (-1)

ringbarer (545020) | about 13 years ago | (#2862123)

Just what we REALLY needed. Cheers, geeks!

Slashdot Editors = Hypocrites (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862130)

This entire system is rigged. If the editors don't like how you're posting or moderating, they will unleach their wrath on you.

Re:Slashdot Editors = Hypocrites (-1, Troll)

Marcus Brody (320463) | about 13 years ago | (#2862311)

Ahh, the Great Karma Massacre of 16-01-2002. A day, my friends, that will incoporate and mingle with the folklore and history of this famous arena.

The day we learned the terms "Threadslap" and "Postslap".

The day the slashdot world learned of the all-powerful god-like powers of the editors. The day we learned these Slash Gods were not benign masters - like our beloved Tsorvalds - but more malignant, totolatarian entitites, with control-freakerish tendencies.

Who did it? Taco? Michael? Not Jon Katz, surely? Maybe CowboyNeal?

Yes, maybe the editors are rightfully wary of naval-gazing. Keeping things on topic - Science, technology, computers. But surely any organisation needs a certain level of feedback, interaction with customers and clients, re-direction of stratagies and goals.

I dont believe a huge overturn of the moderation system is required. If you change it, people will still complain. What I do have a problem with is negative inteference from the slashdot editors when anyone stands up to criticise them or their beloved system.

A breif history, for the uninformed:

In the beggining [slashdot.org]

And then news hit - elsewhere... [kuro5hin.org]

Then, the thread got bitchslapped to -1, by some evil SlashGod [slashdot.org]

And now, the Troll's first real campaign since Goatse... [slashdot.org]

Burning Karma to protect the rights of slashdot users everywhere since 16-01-2002

Re:Slashdot Editors = Hypocrites (-1, Offtopic)

_johnnyc (111627) | about 13 years ago | (#2862446)

Sir, I'm done with you. If you have valid points, they're lost on me now. You are always offtopic and are continually interfering with my enjoyment of posts that are on topic.

Your arguments are lost in your noise and trolling. Has it occured to you that you might have been moderated offtopic because you are offtopic? If I were a moderator, I'd mod you down right now.

Enough already. Grow up. Surely there are other ways of making your points heard. You're beginning to sound like a disaffected high school student bitterly complaining of getting poor marks.

I have nothing against dissent. But when it begins to interfere with my enjoyment of other reader's ontopic comments I get pissed.

I am in now way affiliated with /. Editors, can you please answer this guy so he can shut up already. I want to see a story on this, because he won't stop otherwise.

2.4.x (5, Interesting)

tulare (244053) | about 13 years ago | (#2862134)

A quick thought - iptables on an access point? That I like. Think of all the possiblities...

Re:2.4.x (3, Insightful)

autocracy (192714) | about 13 years ago | (#2862299)

Other quick thought - wouldn't that take up all the RAM while processing packets?

Re:2.4.x (4, Interesting)

tulare (244053) | about 13 years ago | (#2862483)

Not a bad point, actually. I don't imagine that you could run all the packets through some 500-line list of various netfilter errata. What I had in mind would be more like
  1. iptables -A INPUT -s --source-mac [mac address of my allowed devices] -j ACCEPT

  2. iptables -P INPUT DROP
    iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o [er, whatever the interface is called] -j MASQUERADE
Not neccessarily complete or accurate in terms of syntax, but you get the gist. Nothing requiring too much memory usage, but enough to ensure you can limit the use of the access point to trusted devices.

Re:2.4.x (3, Funny)

medcalf (68293) | about 13 years ago | (#2863386)

Just get an airport base station as your 802.11 access point, and then configure it to only accept connections from MACs you trust, using the appropriate box in the GUI. Oh, wait, that wouldn't be as much fun. It's too easy.

Re:2.4.x (5, Insightful)

1010011010 (53039) | about 13 years ago | (#2862422)

Another thought:

IPSec on the access point. Screw WEP!

Re:2.4.x (4, Insightful)

louissypher (155011) | about 13 years ago | (#2862591)

With the embedded processor that those access points have (16.4 BogoMips), forget IPSEC.

Re:2.4.x (2, Interesting)

Nectar (28216) | about 13 years ago | (#2863008)

Screw WEP anyway. You don't need anything special on the access point for IPsec: just configure your mobile units to use IPsec, and tunnel through some other host or use transport mode.

Sweet! (3, Funny)

jiminim (104910) | about 13 years ago | (#2862138)

So now I can run Seti on my AP?

Re:Sweet! (3, Funny)

mbyte (65875) | about 13 years ago | (#2862175)

> So now I can run Seti on my AP ?

yes. with 16 bogomips (according to screenshot ;)

Re:Sweet! (2, Informative)

linzeal (197905) | about 13 years ago | (#2862284)

Seti@home would have to port to the little amd proc in there as no source code is available for obvious reasons.

About you sig... (0, Offtopic)

DAldredge (2353) | about 13 years ago | (#2862352)

Make sure you update it to reflect the people killed by the suicide gunmans attack on the 12 year olds party that happend in the past 24 hours. I don't want you stat to be out of date.

Re:About you sig... (0, Troll)

DAldredge (2353) | about 13 years ago | (#2862673)

Make sure you update it to reflect the people killed by the suicide gunmans attack on the 12 year olds party that happend in the past 24 hours. I don't want you stat to be out of date.

Re:About you sig... (0, Offtopic)

linzeal (197905) | about 13 years ago | (#2862849)

I did around 4:00 am my time.

Spread 'em (-1)

Guns n' Roses Troll (207208) | about 13 years ago | (#2862154)

That's right bitch.. Spread those lips. Yeah, I'm talking to you. You fat cunt. Get the twinkie out of your mouth; here comes Mr Happy!

Re:Spread 'em (-1)

Tasty Beef Jerky (543576) | about 13 years ago | (#2862179)

I'm sorry, but Mr. Happy is on leave today. We've called a temp agency, and they'll be sending over Mr. Flatulent shortly.

Mr. Happy should be back on Monday.

Re:Spread 'em (-1)

trollercoaster (250101) | about 13 years ago | (#2862337)

Monday is a holiday. didn't you mean Tuesday?

Re:Spread 'em (-1)

Guns n' Roses Troll (207208) | about 13 years ago | (#2862556)

Ah yes, MLK day. The day the USA celebrates a bastard-producing, drug-taking, rebel-rousing Negro who didn't know his place. Wonderful.

Re:Spread 'em (-1)

Tasty Beef Jerky (543576) | about 13 years ago | (#2862695)

Mr. Happy is a minimum wage worker and lost MLK day as a result of taking today off, no overtime either. He's lazy, so he hasn't earned it.

Slashdot Editors = Hypocrites (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862157)

This entire system is rigged in their favor. [slashdot.org] If the editors don't like how you're posting or moderating, they will unleash their wrath on you. Never mind that they don't even follow their own rules. They make them up as they go along.

Welcome to the Slashdot Matrix.

Bitch (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862169)

Seriously, quit your whining. If you don't like the way things are run around here, go somewhere else, or start a site of your own. After all, slashcode is freely available...

Not First Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862176)

This is not the first post so you may ignore it.

Re:Not First Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862412)

Kneel down and worship my turgid effluence!

pleeeeease?!!! damn, I never get first post!

Re:Not First Post! (-1, Offtopic)

mattyohe (517995) | about 13 years ago | (#2862439)

you were only off by about.. oh.. say.. 45 seconds

Re:Not First Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862537)

"you were only off by about.. oh.. say.. 45 seconds"

It's not nice to troll the clueless firstposter AC! That should be minutes of course. But since he always replies to someonelse's post, he's doomed to never get it, eh?

firewall replacement (5, Insightful)

47PHA60 (444748) | about 13 years ago | (#2862184)

One thing that irks me to no end is that my home firewall is a noisy old Pentium 200 with disks and fans. I've been looking into embedded systems to do this, and the current access points I've seen are not effective firewalls at all; no logging, and they don't _reall_ block everything, even though they say they do. A small Linux kernel which does not need to be built up with support for PCI, two ethernet cards, disks and multiple filesystems might just do the trick.

Re:firewall replacement (3, Interesting)

linzeal (197905) | about 13 years ago | (#2862250)

Underclock the proc and run it without a fan but get a big cheap socket 7 heatsink and get an rpm adjustable fan [enermax.com.tw] that will rev up and down according to a temparture probe included. I have an amd 500mhz underclocked to 375mhz without a fan that runs my firewall [astaro.com] .

Re:firewall replacement (2, Informative)

parc (25467) | about 13 years ago | (#2862274)

I'm using a diskless setup on FreeBSD with an Intel NIC. Boots in about 15 seconds, and the only noise is the power supply and CPU fan. I can probably get rid of the CPU fan. I might even try cutting the PS fan, since the load on the PS is next to nothing.

Re:firewall replacement (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862378)

you can always use syslog and log to another machine

Re:firewall replacement (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862403)

People who complain about loud routers usually don't have other machines running 24/7 which they could log to. Wouldn't make much sense to complain about the router if they had.

Re:firewall replacement (3, Interesting)

Raptor CK (10482) | about 13 years ago | (#2862383)

How about this? [soekris.com]

Two 10/100 ports, 1 serial port, one Mini-PCI slot, two PCMCIA/CardBus slots.
Granted, it's not out just yet, but you could make it handle wireless, inbound traffic, and two internal segments fairly easily.

The only problem is the dependence on CF. Logging isn't generally a good idea to media that can't handle excessive writes. While a Microdrive would fare better, it would also cost much more.

Re:firewall replacement (3, Informative)

Etyenne (4915) | about 13 years ago | (#2862941)

syslogd -r

MOD PARENT UP Re:firewall replacement (1)

SPiKe (19306) | about 13 years ago | (#2862960)

Yes, I was just about to say that.

Remember kiddies, the network IS the computer, to the nth power, cuz I'mthedoindot.com.

Re:firewall replacement (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2863072)

Take a look at Advantech's PCM-5823 [advantech.com] . Small, dual ethernet, CF card, ide interface. And it's available now. Very nice.

Re:firewall replacement (1)

jim3e8 (458859) | about 13 years ago | (#2862406)

My Pentium 200 didn't come with a fan, and I ripped out the power supply fan without any ensuing problems. It boots over the network and as such needs no disks, so it's completely quiet. I use it as my MP3 server.

Re:firewall replacement (3, Funny)

Howie (4244) | about 13 years ago | (#2862596)

I use it as my MP3 server.

Without any disks?

Re:firewall replacement (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862656)

RAM is/was cheap. ;)

Re:firewall replacement (1)

jim3e8 (458859) | about 13 years ago | (#2863076)

Of course. The noisy server with the disks is in the closet in another room. The MP3 server gets its files over NFS. It also runs esd, so any compatible client can stream .wavs to it directly. I do this with xmms from my laptop sometimes.

Re:firewall replacement (1)

Howie (4244) | about 13 years ago | (#2863142)

*blink* OK... I don't see quite why the clients can't just stream from the fileserver and save your network, but hey, that's me told. I'm sure there's a good reason.

Try an old Laptop (3, Insightful)

luiss (217284) | about 13 years ago | (#2862828)

Try getting hold of an old laptop. I got a 486 toshiba satelite for about $20, added two cheap PCMCIA ethernet cards, and loaded linux on it.

No fans (I think), battery backup, and LCD screen, nice...

There is a Linux on Laptops FAQ somewhere out there where you can check for compatability. Ebay is a good place to check for cheapo laptops. Just whatch out the the amount of RAM available. With no CD-ROM most of the old cheapo laptops can be a pain to get linux loaded, if your working from a distro whose imstall img can be over 8MB in size.

AirPort (1)

ciryon (218518) | about 13 years ago | (#2862195)

This is really cool, but I think I'll stick with Apple's Airport. Don't need to configure that much, plus I like the design. :-)


Re:AirPort (2, Informative)

Strog (129969) | about 13 years ago | (#2862404)

Don't need to configure that much

You mean can't configure much. The original airports are the same as the Orinoco RG-1000 and each one is its own wireless network. The Orinoco has a better range for some reason. Better antenna? They released an updated firmware on the RG-1000 that would allow you to change the network name. I used it to change the network name of my boss's home one to the same network name as the AP at work. This makes the RG-1000 a lot more versatile. Is there an update for the airports that anyone is aware of? Anyone daring enough to try the Orinoco update on the airport?

Re:AirPort (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862701)

Well, the AirPort is just a 486, so it's most likely not very hard to boot some kind of Linux on it, just like what this story describes.

Re:AirPort (2, Informative)

voltaire (1198) | about 13 years ago | (#2863310)

Actually, the Airport and the Rg-1000 are all the same hardware, infact the Ap-500 and Ap1000 are also compatible hardware. The Comunity Wireless groups have already experimented with swaping the firmware on these devices. All the devices use a Lucent/Orinoco wavelan card internally (Rg100 and Airport use silvers) Checkout PersonalTelco's FirmwareSwapping [personaltelco.net] page for details. The reason you see better range in the Rg1000 is probably the orientation, the radiation patern of the integrated antennas are better suited for verticial operation. I can't quote the source but I had read a site on 802.11 antenna design and what a sorry design the client adapters used.

Re:AirPort (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862592)

Sorry no url, But there is a guy out there who has managed to get linux to run on an airport base station. Apparently, the airport is actually a 386 inside...

Slogan (5, Funny)

Hougaard (163563) | about 13 years ago | (#2862203)

I Like their slogan:

"All your base stations are belong to us"

.. Sense of humor :)

Finally (3, Informative)

mattyohe (517995) | about 13 years ago | (#2862238)

Multi-point to Multi-point works with this solution... its funny how going to linux solves my problems

Same Some Bucks? (3, Insightful)

blitzrage (185758) | about 13 years ago | (#2862249)

I think that this is a cool idea. You can now upgrade and fix bugs, security holes etc.. yourself instead of having to wait for the vendor to do it (if they do it). Not to mention if you have a really old AP, maybe you can get it out and play around with Linux on it. This could allow you to take old AP's that people are pretty much throwing out, and recycle them. Might save you a few bucks. That'd be cool.

ok, ok (0, Flamebait)

warpSpeed (67927) | about 13 years ago | (#2862271)

Imagine a...

802.11b ? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862288)

Can someone please give a few lines describing what 802.11b is and perhaps some recommended urls?


Re:802.11b ? (1)

mattyohe (517995) | about 13 years ago | (#2862295)

Wireless.. sorry I dont have any rfcs on me... use google....

Re:802.11b ? (3, Informative)

Hougaard (163563) | about 13 years ago | (#2862369)

802.11b is wireless LAN. 11Mbit (With fallback to 5 and 2). A good reference is Nokia since they produce a complete setup.

Nokia Wireless LAN [nokia.com]

I'm using (Nokia) 802.11b for all my home stuff now. No more cables running across the floor (This is really a wife pleaser :). Even my printers are connected on a miniport (To a jet direct box) and mounted on a little mobile table.

Re:802.11b ? DUH! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862598)

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Re:802.11b ? (2, Informative)

burntfungus (541760) | about 13 years ago | (#2862702)


Re:802.11b ? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862781)

IEEE 802.11b is an international standard for local area wireless networking, analogous to 802.3 for wired Ethernet. The folks at IEEE have been nice enough to make the standard document available for free, at the following page:

http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/802.11.html [ieee.org]

Most of the rest of the information around the 'net just paraphrases or simplifies the content from this document. Check this out for the real meat.

Re:802.11b ? (0, Offtopic)

quinto2000 (211211) | about 13 years ago | (#2863145)

that was fairly transparent. Post as AC, thus allowing you to reply logged in and accumulate some karma points and not be redundant or offtopic!

I admire someone with your dedication.

Great (2)

Yarn (75) | about 13 years ago | (#2862300)

I may try this, as long as I can rollback to the original firmware ;)

(I have the SMC ezconnect 2652 AP)

The site is getting slower and slower so I may have to wait until next week before I find out :/

I also wonder how much WEP it supports

Woohoo! (1, Flamebait)

ALecs (118703) | about 13 years ago | (#2862302)

Now my access point can get 0wn3d too! What'll they think of next?

FAQ and SS mirror (2, Redundant)

MentlFlos (7345) | about 13 years ago | (#2862307)

Slasdotted (1, Redundant)

asv108 (141455) | about 13 years ago | (#2862324)

I put up a mirror of the screens available here [peernation.org]

Hmm, security? (5, Interesting)

RC514 (546181) | about 13 years ago | (#2862326)

After the initial install with the SRAM card the access point can be upgraded over the network.

Does that mean the vendors of access points do not write protect the operating system on the hardware level? Or are future modifications only possible when the jumper remains in the upgrade position? If the jumper becomes meaningless after the upgrade, its implementation is a serious design flaw and an undetected rooting waiting to happen.

Re:Hmm, security? (1)

iamchris (311218) | about 13 years ago | (#2862477)

One would think that you could allow/disallow tftp access from any given host.

However, an access point makes a lousy firewall... Which interface is the protected interface anyway? The one that you can access from the internet, or the one that you can access as you drive by?

Re:Hmm, security? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862518)

just mount your AP on a realy realy tall tree..

Fat linux Hacking gods wont be able to reach it, and skinny newbies wont have a clue what to do when they get to it.

Re:Hmm, security? (2)

Bruce Perens (3872) | about 13 years ago | (#2862603)

Before the upgrade to Linux, you have to open the box. After the upgrade, Linux and your own software are what protects whether or not a network upgrade is allowed. You have to become root on the box to do it.


Airport Killer!! (0, Troll)

phloda (530937) | about 13 years ago | (#2862340)

You forgot to mention that this is very much an Airport Killer.

Re:Airport Killer!! (2)

Sc00ter (99550) | about 13 years ago | (#2862431)

Why is this an airport killer? The airport base station is easy to configure, easy to use, and the new one even has a trusted lan connection that you can set other permissions to. There's windows/linux software to configure it.

Why would I run this linux thing over the OS that's already on the Airport, an OS that's specifically designed for this operation.

NoCatAuth (1)

adavidw (31941) | about 13 years ago | (#2862355)

I've always thought that an access point that had NoCatAuth built in would be a great product. Now, until the AP vendors come up with something like this, at least we can roll our own.


Hardware (4, Informative)

Cybersonic (7113) | about 13 years ago | (#2862370)

in case your curious, this works on access points using the Eumitcom WL11000SA-N boards...
( ref: http://opensource.instant802.com/hardware.php )
Tested: US Robotics 2450, SMC EZconnect 2652W

Time to buy an SMC for me :)

Re:Hardware (1)

Ryan Kirkpatrick (45) | about 13 years ago | (#2862935)

Good luck finding one. I just hit pricewatch.com and eBay with no luck. It appears that both the USR and the SMC products are already out of production.

Maybe the people who developed this cornered the market on these WAPs first, then released their software knowing every Linux geek would want one. And they say you can't make money off of open source. :)

How are they doing bridging? (2)

tzanger (1575) | about 13 years ago | (#2862388)

AFAIK, the bridging code is loaded to the PCMCIA card each boot. Did they manage to keep the file and just replay it or did they reverse-engineer the bridging code?

Not that I am really concerned, bridging a wireless LAN to your wired LAN is bad news unless there is zero need for security (aka my home).

Re:How are they doing bridging? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862489)

unless there is zero need for security (aka my home).

Where did you say you live? Nice to know I've got free internet access and a place to stick my files next time I'm in Listowel.

p.s. just kidding! I'm not stalking you!

Re:How are they doing bridging? (4, Informative)

irregular_hero (444800) | about 13 years ago | (#2862535)

The "bridging code" is standard Linux bridging. I think what you're referring to is the "Host AP" or "Infrastructure" mode of the wireless card inside the AP.

If the card is based on the Prism chipset, there's already a Linux driver that will operate the card in Host AP mode by implementing some of the functions normally present in the access point's Infrastructure mode in user space. Other things are handled by the card.

For example, the card itself will handle time-dependent functions like beacon-sending. And it will handle hardware-dependent functions like WEP encrypt-decrypt (optionally). But the association table and all the rest of the functions are part of user space.

Incidentally, you don't need the Host AP driver for your Wireless card to operate a bridged network. Oddly enough, the bridge code in the Linux kernel functions just fine with a wireless card in Peer-to-Peer mode -- it is, after all, just another interface to the kernel itself. What you won't get in peer to peer is sophisticated association handling -- that means that the signal strength meter in your wireless tools won't work exactly right in most commercial packages.

Re:How are they doing bridging? (2)

Multispin (49784) | about 13 years ago | (#2863112)

The Linux bridge code doesn't work with many wireless cards (Orinoco and cisco) because the cards themselves didn't allow transmission with an arbitrary MAC address. I think bridge mode is possible with the PrismII cards.

Re:How are they doing bridging? (2)

Fluffy the Cat (29157) | about 13 years ago | (#2862570)

No, the APs in question appear to be based on the Intersil Prism-II chipset. This supports a "host-AP" mode, which allows it to work as an access point without requiring special firmware. At that point you can just use the standard Linux kernel bridging code.

Can I use this to turn my old notebook into an AP? (2, Interesting)

mocm (141920) | about 13 years ago | (#2862442)

I have been looking for a reliable software that can be used to turn a notebook into an AP. There is
a driver for prism2 cards which works well enough, but lacks roaming support and in the latest version
WEP doesn't seem to work.
I had been looking for AP software under Linux, but the prism2 card combined with bridging in the kernel
was all I could find. It works, but could be better.
So, the question is, if I could use this to turn an old notebook into something more usefull. And,
if so, why has it only been announced as Linux for certain AP hardware.

Re:Can I use this to turn my old notebook into an (2)

Bruce Perens (3872) | about 13 years ago | (#2862691)

Yes, if your wireless card is based on the Prism II chip (as many new cards are, but not your old ones).That's the only thing we have an AP driver for.


Re:Can I use this to turn my old notebook into an (1)

jalewis (85802) | about 13 years ago | (#2862722)

Check the nocat site for the (Wireless router Project) WRP. I think that is what you are looking for.


Re:Can I use this to turn my old notebook into an (3, Informative)

burntfungus (541760) | about 13 years ago | (#2863390)

Yes see: http://people.ssh.com/jkm/Prism2/

Lots o links on this subject: http://wireless.pasadena.net/links.php

Security (1)

dwen (468069) | about 13 years ago | (#2862450)

Interesting features. However, looks it needs to add some security features, such as 64-bit or 128-bit WEP, MAC access control etc.

Re:Security (2)

Hougaard (163563) | about 13 years ago | (#2862464)

Thats why its opensource, go write it :)

Re:Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2863168)

Great reply, is the entire world a bunch of programmers with nothing but time on their hands? It's tired and stupid, stop saying it.

Re:Security (1)

cosmol (143886) | about 13 years ago | (#2862912)

I believe the card has WEP builtin and ipchains has access control, what is the problem?

WOWWW!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2862467)

Linux Screenshots are SO EXCITING!!!

PC104 Bus on there? Think of the potential. (1)

Devi0us (21988) | about 13 years ago | (#2862468)

Anyone else notice that board had what looked to be a PC/104 bus? That just adds even more to the potential. Put it in a new case, add a PC/104 board with another PCMCIA controller, and you've got 3x ethernet + 802.11b . Hells yah. Firewall potential gets nice. External, Internal, DMZ, and 802.11b DMZ.

So? (0, Redundant)

sootman (158191) | about 13 years ago | (#2862480)

I've got a pacemaker that runs Linux. Beat that. Seriously, this is way cool. Send critical logs to a printer on your WLAN, or save them all to an nfs-mounted volume... sweeeeeeet.

Re:So? (2, Funny)

Oggust (526634) | about 13 years ago | (#2862669)

> I've got a pacemaker that runs Linux. Beat that.

You know, that could really put the "panic" back in "kernel panic".


Repeater? (3, Insightful)

1010011010 (53039) | about 13 years ago | (#2862545)

Could someone elaborate on the repeater functionality? Could I place unwired access points at regular distances, with only the one at the end wired to the regular network, and roam all down the chain with an 802.11b device (PDA for instance)?

Re:Repeater? (1)

CBoy (129544) | about 13 years ago | (#2862733)

I know the RG-1000 latest firmware doesn't let you do this (reference: BAWUG mailing list archives), and I assume the airport doesn't either. At least I can't get it to work, even making network name the same. I have no clue about this linux distribution can, but if it does, I'd flash it in a minute!!!

Re:Repeater? (1)

SPiKe (19306) | about 13 years ago | (#2863049)

That sort of functionality seems to be reserved for the higher end access points, such as the Ap-1000.

You can build an AP on a PC: (4, Informative)

burntfungus (541760) | about 13 years ago | (#2862677)

You can build a Linux Access point on a PC or laptop, pehaps even a PDA:


Bridging software: http://bridge.sourceforge.net

Use serial port for modem backup? (4, Interesting)

Fencepost (107992) | about 13 years ago | (#2862725)

One of the features that I like about the MultiTech router/switch I have is that a modem can be hung off the serial port and used as a backup connection. What would it take to do the same with this, and is there a getty out there that would support operating both ways (i.e. use a modem for dialout, but if a terminal was connected instead then allow login).

Re:Use serial port for modem backup? (1)

cmoss (14324) | about 13 years ago | (#2863089)

I think mgetty/vgetty is standard for most linux distros. It supports sharing the serial port easily.

"Mac OS X.i is what Linux-on-desktop People Crave" (-1)

peepoh (537606) | about 13 years ago | (#2863016)

An article [networkcomputing.com] by Michael J. DeMaria over at networkcomputing.com [networkcomputing.com] .
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